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What player have you got, as you be able to convert it to multichannel pcm. 

Yes. I ended up buying a second Blu-ray player ( Sony X700/M) that does pass-through LCPM through the LG CX TV to the Sonos Arc. This is an excellent work-around.

My first blu-ray player purchase til this day, even after Sonos ARC firmware updates supporting LCPM and now DTS, the Panasonic DP-UB820, will not pass DTS or LCPM through the LG CX to the Sonos ARC. 

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What player have you got, as you be able to convert it to multichannel pcm. 

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B9 and C9 can pass DTS as have the codecs. C1, CX new ones etc had codecs removed. 

Do you think LG realizes how much stress and frustration they have caused so many with lack of DTS support? I had no idea how many of my blu-rays are some form of DTS only in English but DD 5.1 for other languages on the same disc for some strange reason. Also, many of the newly 4K remastered Blu-rays come in DTS only too. 

Wondering if the codecs can be added to the C1, CX via firmware at some point? I guess if it could, LG would have added it already…like they did with older models.

At least Sonos finally came around to realizing DTS-less misery for so many of its customers. Very happy they took the effort and cost to add DTS 👍🏼👍🏼

If only I knew what I have had to learn the hard way, just a few months ago when I spent thousands and purchased all of this new gear that something that costs $20, a 4K UHD Blu-ray DTS only Disc, could cause so much frustration.  

On the flip side. LG CX, Sonos Arc 5.1 and Dolby Atmos blu-rays are WOWx 10 ! 

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I am sure Ken can answer for himself when he comes back on, but I don’t think he is suggesting a direct connection from BRP to Arc, just that he can now get DTS audio from his BRP playing on the Arc by passing it through the TV

I had a slight hope he had figured something out to bypass the TV without the complications of something like the HDFury, which might solve the Panasonic UB820 DTS to ARC issue blocked by my TV. 

As an update to my post further up, I have the UB820 and am now getting DTS 5.1 for my DTS Blu Rays.

The only downside is it required me to toggle eARC off for the Arc, but it’s easy to toggle it on/off, and actually having it off still gave me Atmos and the like.

I can talk through my settings if helpful?

Interesting! Please explain. My LG CX still doesn't support DTS, but I’ll give it a try anyway. 

Player settings (UB820):

DTS/DTS-HD - Bitstream

BD-Video Secondary Audio - Automatic

 

LG B9 settings:

Digital Sound Out - Passthrough

eARC - Off

 

Mine is a B9 but someone with a C9 has said this worked for them too. It may not work for CXs but worth giving a shot.

Thank you. Sadly for me, not the solution through my LG CX TV and my Panasonic UB820. But was worth a try as I was hoping maybe it would at least allow LCPM to pass through from the Panasonic UB820. 

Happy for you! I know how meaningful the sound experience when you can play a DTS only Blu-ray without miserable PCM Stereo on the Sonos Arc. When I switched to using the Sony Blu-ray player for DTS only blu-rays and heard Multichannel PCM Surround Sound for the first It was a jump for joy! 

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B9 and C9 can pass DTS as have the codecs. C1, CX new ones etc had codecs removed. 

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I am sure Ken can answer for himself when he comes back on, but I don’t think he is suggesting a direct connection from BRP to Arc, just that he can now get DTS audio from his BRP playing on the Arc by passing it through the TV

I had a slight hope he had figured something out to bypass the TV without the complications of something like the HDFury, which might solve the Panasonic UB820 DTS to ARC issue blocked by my TV. 

As an update to my post further up, I have the UB820 and am now getting DTS 5.1 for my DTS Blu Rays.

The only downside is it required me to toggle eARC off for the Arc, but it’s easy to toggle it on/off, and actually having it off still gave me Atmos and the like.

I can talk through my settings if helpful?

Interesting! Please explain. My LG CX still doesn't support DTS, but I’ll give it a try anyway. 

Player settings (UB820):

DTS/DTS-HD - Bitstream

BD-Video Secondary Audio - Automatic

 

LG B9 settings:

Digital Sound Out - Passthrough

eARC - Off

 

Mine is a B9 but someone with a C9 has said this worked for them too. It may not work for CXs but worth giving a shot.

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I am sure Ken can answer for himself when he comes back on, but I don’t think he is suggesting a direct connection from BRP to Arc, just that he can now get DTS audio from his BRP playing on the Arc by passing it through the TV

I had a slight hope he had figured something out to bypass the TV without the complications of something like the HDFury, which might solve the Panasonic UB820 DTS to ARC issue blocked by my TV. 

As an update to my post further up, I have the UB820 and am now getting DTS 5.1 for my DTS Blu Rays.

The only downside is it required me to toggle eARC off for the Arc, but it’s easy to toggle it on/off, and actually having it off still gave me Atmos and the like.

I can talk through my settings if helpful?

Interesting! Please explain. My LG CX still doesn't support DTS, but I’ll give it a try anyway. 

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I am sure Ken can answer for himself when he comes back on, but I don’t think he is suggesting a direct connection from BRP to Arc, just that he can now get DTS audio from his BRP playing on the Arc by passing it through the TV

I had a slight hope he had figured something out to bypass the TV without the complications of something like the HDFury, which might solve the Panasonic UB820 DTS to ARC issue blocked by my TV. 

As an update to my post further up, I have the UB820 and am now getting DTS 5.1 for my DTS Blu Rays.

The only downside is it required me to toggle eARC off for the Arc, but it’s easy to toggle it on/off, and actually having it off still gave me Atmos and the like.

I can talk through my settings if helpful?

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I am sure Ken can answer for himself when he comes back on, but I don’t think he is suggesting a direct connection from BRP to Arc, just that he can now get DTS audio from his BRP playing on the Arc by passing it through the TV

I had a slight hope he had figured something out to bypass the TV without the complications of something like the HDFury, which might solve the Panasonic UB820 DTS to ARC issue blocked by my TV. 

I am sure Ken can answer for himself when he comes back on, but I don’t think he is suggesting a direct connection from BRP to Arc, just that he can now get DTS audio from his BRP playing on the Arc by passing it through the TV

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DTS working okay here too.. 👍

Blu-Ray Player to Sonos Arc

LG C9 TV set to ‘pass-through’

 

Blu-Ray Player to Sonos Arc?

Hi Ken, which Blu-ray player ? Also what configuration on your LG C9 allows you to connect your Blu-ray player directly to the Sonos Arc and then view the movie on the TV?

DTS working okay here too.. 👍

Blu-Ray Player to Sonos Arc

LG C9 TV set to ‘pass-through’

 

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My app is showing DTS Surround sound 5.1 now after the update. I have Panasonic VT60 hooked to Nvidia shield and I am playing my stream through Kodi which is setup as Passthrough.

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Hmm, so I’ve updated but it’s not working for me. I’m using an LG B9, which I understand has DTS

support. But when I play DTS discs, I’m getting ‘Unsupported TV audio’ on the app and no sound.

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I am able to play back Dolby DTS-HD and I am hearing all channels correctly, the Sonos App shows the source as Multichannel PCM 5.1.

I tried swapping settings on the TV from passthrough to auto to pcm, only passthrough works properly.

I have an LG OLED C9.

For the audio source I am using a bluray disc.”

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/sonos/comments/qv9iv5/134_ios_released_and_new_firmware/

Thanks - yeah, still no luck, mine’s set to pass through.

I have a horrible feeling this is down to the blu ray player I have, the dreaded Panasonic UB820.

Does anyone have this setup and can confirm DTS is finally working?

Oh No!  Yes that is the problem. As I commented above, I have the same Panasonic UB820 and it doesn’t play well with Sonos for my DTS only blu-rays. I had to buy a second player just to play DTS only blu-rays in multichannel PCM on the Sonos Arc.

Drat. Was really hoping this update would get around that somehow.

So is my only option either a new player or an HDFury?

Unfortunately, from what I have spent far too much time out of my life googling and experimenting, options are limited to another player or something like the HDFury. The Sony player I bought cost a little less than the HDFury and I could have returned it for free if it didn't work out. Others use the Sony PlayStation too. 

Huge PITA that I wish I would have known about before buying all these components. 

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Hmm, so I’ve updated but it’s not working for me. I’m using an LG B9, which I understand has DTS

support. But when I play DTS discs, I’m getting ‘Unsupported TV audio’ on the app and no sound.

Quote from Reddit:

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meanerJake

· 3h

I am able to play back Dolby DTS-HD and I am hearing all channels correctly, the Sonos App shows the source as Multichannel PCM 5.1.

I tried swapping settings on the TV from passthrough to auto to pcm, only passthrough works properly.

I have an LG OLED C9.

For the audio source I am using a bluray disc.”

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/sonos/comments/qv9iv5/134_ios_released_and_new_firmware/

Thanks - yeah, still no luck, mine’s set to pass through.

I have a horrible feeling this is down to the blu ray player I have, the dreaded Panasonic UB820.

Does anyone have this setup and can confirm DTS is finally working?

Oh No!  Yes that is the problem. As I commented above, I have the same Panasonic UB820 and it doesn’t play well with Sonos for my DTS only blu-rays. I had to buy a second player just to play DTS only blu-rays in multichannel PCM on the Sonos Arc.

Drat. Was really hoping this update would get around that somehow.

So is my only option either a new player or an HDFury?

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Hmm, so I’ve updated but it’s not working for me. I’m using an LG B9, which I understand has DTS

support. But when I play DTS discs, I’m getting ‘Unsupported TV audio’ on the app and no sound.

Quote from Reddit:

“level 2

meanerJake

· 3h

I am able to play back Dolby DTS-HD and I am hearing all channels correctly, the Sonos App shows the source as Multichannel PCM 5.1.

I tried swapping settings on the TV from passthrough to auto to pcm, only passthrough works properly.

I have an LG OLED C9.

For the audio source I am using a bluray disc.”

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/sonos/comments/qv9iv5/134_ios_released_and_new_firmware/

Thanks - yeah, still no luck, mine’s set to pass through.

I have a horrible feeling this is down to the blu ray player I have, the dreaded Panasonic UB820.

Does anyone have this setup and can confirm DTS is finally working?

Oh No!  Yes that is the problem. As I commented above, I have the same Panasonic UB820 and it doesn’t play well with Sonos for my DTS only blu-rays. I had to buy a second player just to play DTS only blu-rays in multichannel PCM on the Sonos Arc.

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Hmm, so I’ve updated but it’s not working for me. I’m using an LG B9, which I understand has DTS

support. But when I play DTS discs, I’m getting ‘Unsupported TV audio’ on the app and no sound.

Quote from Reddit:

“level 2

meanerJake

· 3h

I am able to play back Dolby DTS-HD and I am hearing all channels correctly, the Sonos App shows the source as Multichannel PCM 5.1.

I tried swapping settings on the TV from passthrough to auto to pcm, only passthrough works properly.

I have an LG OLED C9.

For the audio source I am using a bluray disc.”

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/sonos/comments/qv9iv5/134_ios_released_and_new_firmware/

Thanks - yeah, still no luck, mine’s set to pass through.

I have a horrible feeling this is down to the blu ray player I have, the dreaded Panasonic UB820.

Does anyone have this setup and can confirm DTS is finally working?

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Hmm, so I’ve updated but it’s not working for me. I’m using an LG B9, which I understand has DTS

support. But when I play DTS discs, I’m getting ‘Unsupported TV audio’ on the app and no sound.

Quote from Reddit:

“level 2

meanerJake

· 3h

I am able to play back Dolby DTS-HD and I am hearing all channels correctly, the Sonos App shows the source as Multichannel PCM 5.1.

I tried swapping settings on the TV from passthrough to auto to pcm, only passthrough works properly.

I have an LG OLED C9.

For the audio source I am using a bluray disc.”

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/sonos/comments/qv9iv5/134_ios_released_and_new_firmware/

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Hmm, so I’ve updated but it’s not working for me. I’m using an LG B9, which I understand has DTS

support. But when I play DTS discs, I’m getting ‘Unsupported TV audio’ on the app and no sound.

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Hip Hip! 

v13.4 

In this update:

  • Sonos home theater products now support decoding DTS Digital Surround. 
     
  • A new Battery Saver mode is available for portable Sonos products.
     
  • EQ settings are now accessible by pressing the  icon on the Now Playing screen in the Sonos app for iOS.
     
  • An HD badge now shows on the Now Playing screen while Sonos is playing higher quality audio.

https://support.sonos.com/s/article/3521?language=en_US

 

Sadly my new LG CX TV does not support any form of DTS 🤬

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Pretty excited about this update, any idea when it'll happen (outside of the vague "later this year"?)

There is an Audio Advice video that mentions a November 21 update. Start at the 4:06 mark:
 

 

Are we still expecting/hoping for an update this Sunday? Is that a normal day for Sonos updates?

The update was released today.

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Pretty excited about this update, any idea when it'll happen (outside of the vague "later this year"?)

There is an Audio Advice video that mentions a November 21 update. Start at the 4:06 mark:
 

 

Are we still expecting/hoping for an update this Sunday? Is that a normal day for Sonos updates?

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@LBJ2 The Panasonic UB820 works great. It just doesn’t work with LG TVs to play multichannel PCM. I use a UB820 with my old Panasonic plasma and the HDFury Arcana and it works great with DTS discs.

From my understanding, the CX doesn’t support DTS passthrough. So you won’t be able to get DTS Digital Surround from UHD discs either unless you use a device like the Arcana. Stick with multichannel PCM. The Arc will still support it and it is a much higher quality audio format.

Thank you for the reminder. I have read to the frustration of many all over the internet, the LG CX does not support DTS passthrough and no hint of update or fix on the horizon for the LG CX. You are right this IS the answer to my question regarding when Sonos ARC supports DTS and my LG CX TV + Bluray Player. Thankfully as I wrote, I am able to hear multichannel PCM 5.1 with the Sony player through my setup. 

While the Panasonic UB820 is indeed a reference player, UHD, Dolby Vision + Dolby Atmos is excellent, however for some reason lacks the hand-shake ability in my set up to process Multichannel PCM 5.1 through the LG CX to the Sonos ARC via eARC. So just a precautionary note for those considering which UHD Bluray player for the LG CX + Sonos ARC and DTS only Bluray discs which seem to be the majority. Something I wish I would have known before I bought these particular components.

For now with one going through one HDMI port on the LG CX and one through another TV HDMI port both through eArc to the Sonos Arc:

-When I play a 4K UHD w/ Dolby Atmos/Dolby Digital, I use the Panasonic UB820

-When I play a 4K UHD w/ any flavor of DTS only I use the Sony UBPX700 for multichannel PCM which turns out to be much better than I expected for full Surround Sound. 

The above setup through the gorgeous LG CX 65” is pretty much plug and play as configured above.

P.S. After too much research, I decided against ordering the HDFury Arcana from Asia, but am aware this could have solved my issue as well. In the end, the UBPX700 was a same day buy and deliver option with Amazon plus easy refund if my little experiment didn't work out. 

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@LBJ2 The Panasonic UB820 works great. It just doesn’t work with LG TVs to play multichannel PCM. I use a UB820 with my old Panasonic plasma and the HDFury Arcana and it works great with DTS discs.

From my understanding, the CX doesn’t support DTS passthrough. So you won’t be able to get DTS Digital Surround from UHD discs either unless you use a device like the Arcana. Stick with multichannel PCM. The Arc will still support it and it is a much higher quality audio format.

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I am very happy my Sonos ARC 5.1 setup now processes Multichannel PCM 5.1. A huge sound difference compared to the previous Stereo PCM only when playing any DTS Blu-ray formats ( even though it displays as Multichannel PCM 7.1 on the Sonos app)

Not sure what happened in the industry where I guess Sonos thought DTS was on its way out and didn't include support for DTS in their ARC system till very recently?. From my vantage point, it seems many of the new 4K Blu-ray conversion disks I buy are coming with DTS and not Dolby Atmos! 

Unfortunately, I had to buy a second 4K/UHD Blu-ray player to hear Multichannel PCM 5.1 through my TV the LG OLED CX to the Sonos ARC. For some reason, Sonos Arc and the expensive Panasonic DP-UB20 Blu-ray player can't pass/process  Multichannel PCM through the LG CX TV when playing all these new 4K movies that come with DTS. This combination only allows Stereo PCM with a a barely audible fake surround sound coming from the rear speakers. I mean you really have to put your ear to one of the back speakers to hear a slight fake surround sound. So if you own Sonos ARC and looking for a new 4K UHD Blu-ray player, the Panasonic DP-UB20 might not be the best choice if you want to hear Surround Sound on all your DTS blu-rays/4K blu-ray's. 

When I bought and played the same Blu-rays with DTS only through the budget Sony UBPX700 UHD Blu-ray player with the LG CX TV and Sonos ARC, the room filled with true 5.1 surround sound with DTS processing as Multichannel PCM 5.1. Wow what a difference compared to the miserable and muffled PCM Stereo signal! 

Now I wonder what will happen to Multichannel PCM 5.1 when Sonos Arc comes with support for DTS? If I understand correctly Multichannel PCM 5.1 is a better quality sound than base DTS? Will Sonos allow for processing both? Maybe Multichannel PCM 5.1 through the PCM audio setting on the Blu-ray player and DTS through setting the audio to  bitstream on the Blu-ray player?