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I have a very good self powered sub that I want to use.  I currently use Arc + Sub via optical splitter. However, I’d like to know a way to have the Sonos using EARC while the Sub uses optical. Any suggestions?


 

*** Thoughts on the Sonos Arc so far. Meh.  It’s not as good as what I heard from a Sonos one time in Best Buy.. (maybe playbar?)

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I have a similar problem, but my sub as well as existing ceiling rear speakers are powered by an AVR. I want to have my TV’s audio play out of the Sonos Arc and the AVR at the same time. I found this splitter that might do the trick, but I haven’t purchased and tried it yet: https://thenaudio.com/product/zone-2-earc-audio-processor/

I ended up buying the ThenAudio Zone-2 Processor, and after installing it between my TV and my Sonos Arc along with my AV receiver, I can happily confirm that I’m getting audio (up to Dolby Atmos) playing out of the Arc as well as my AVR simultaneously and without delay!

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I bought the Thenaudio ZONE-2 Processor and have it between my TV's eARC port and my soundbar's eARC port, and the audio (including Dolby Atmos) from Netflix, Amazon Prime Video, Spotify, and other apps on the TV is playing out the soundbar just fine. One caveat is that the video (for options settings) from the soundbar doesn't display on the TV as it would when I have my soundbar eARC directly connected to the TV eARC, but once I've configured the soundbar, I rarely need to change any settings, so this limitation is not a dealbreaker for me.

 

I also have one of the HDMI-IN ports on my receiver connected to Thenaudio ZONE-2 Processor, and wow, it actually works -- I have audio output from the TV playing on both my soundbar and receiver simultaneously! And neither audio sound stages seems to have any delay -- that is, no echo effects! I'll need to do more extensive testing with various video streams, but so far, I'm very impressed!

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I have a similar problem, but my sub as well as existing ceiling rear speakers are powered by an AVR. I want to have my TV’s audio play out of the Sonos Arc and the AVR at the same time. I found this splitter that might do the trick, but I haven’t purchased and tried it yet: https://thenaudio.com/product/zone-2-earc-audio-processor/

This is unlikely to work well. You won’t be splitting the surround channels (or the .1) from the Arc, so they’ll all be downmixed into the Arc’s output. Also, given the different processing delays through Arc and the AVR, there are likely to be echo effects.


Yes, there’s risk with the combined sound fields from the Arc plus the ceiling speakers and sub powered by my receiver, but I think I can fine-tune things with the sound field settings and EQs. I just don’t feel like having to spend $699 for the Sonos Amp to replace my receiver.

I have a similar problem, but my sub as well as existing ceiling rear speakers are powered by an AVR. I want to have my TV’s audio play out of the Sonos Arc and the AVR at the same time. I found this splitter that might do the trick, but I haven’t purchased and tried it yet: https://thenaudio.com/product/zone-2-earc-audio-processor/

This is unlikely to work well. You won’t be splitting the surround channels (or the .1) from the Arc, so they’ll all be downmixed into the Arc’s output. Also, given the different processing delays through Arc and the AVR, there are likely to be echo effects.

@GardeningZen, The output will not be in sync.

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I have a similar problem, but my sub as well as existing ceiling rear speakers are powered by an AVR. I want to have my TV’s audio play out of the Sonos Arc and the AVR at the same time. I found this splitter that might do the trick, but I haven’t purchased and tried it yet: https://thenaudio.com/product/zone-2-earc-audio-processor/

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You are welcome.

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There are some interesting hacks around the internet using the Ikea Symfonisk to turn any powered sub into one that can be added to a Sonos zone. No crossover control mind you but looks like fun!

Would allow you to to adjust the relative volume.

 

There we go. That's what I'm talking about. 

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There are some interesting hacks around the internet using the Ikea Symfonisk to turn any powered sub into one that can be added to a Sonos zone. No crossover control mind you but looks like fun!

Would allow you to to adjust the relative volume.

 

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See yah, ratty. I will share the fix when I find it here.

Note the username. I’m out. 

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We’ll see about that ;)

Lmao. What I would prefer is you share any knowledge you may (if any) on the topic of the post. 

 

Uhhh, that’s what we are doing.  Our knowledge is that your proposed plan won’t work for the reasons given.  

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Lmao. What I would prefer is you share any knowledge you may have (if any) on the topic of the post. 

Point of this post is to search an answer in splitting & adapting eARC and optical.  Wanted to make that clear before getting it derailed.

 

How is it getting derailed?  People are pointing out how your proposed answer may give disappointing results.  Would you prefer encouragement for a plan that ultimately fails?  

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Point of this post is to search an answer in splitting & adapting eARC and optical.  Wanted to make that clear before getting it derailed. Also, you can get some exercise walking to the sub if need be right?

No need, set and forget it.

 

That won’t work.  The volume of the Arc is applied inside the Arc itself, so the signal split to the sub will have no way to know what volume to play.  If you “set it and forget it” it will be too loud for low Arc volumes, and too low for loud Arc volumes.  

You never change the volume on the Arc?

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No need, set and forget it.

The sub has two controls, one for volume and one for tone

 

So you are going to get up out of your seat and adjust the volume on the Sub every time you adjust it on the Arc?  

What has that to do with it? I’m talking about how to keep the sub volume and Arc volume in step.

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The sub has two controls, one for volume and one for tone

So you have to adjust the sub volume separately every time you change the Arc volume?

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Sub is self-powered with volume

 

No crossover, other than the low pass filter in the subwoofer. And how is volume to be controlled, unless it’s in the TV itself?