AirPlay 2 support (Playbar + Sonos One)

It is not a future possibility. The architecture of the surround setup requires all decoding be at the master unit, the Playbar.

that's a real shame.
I'm sure there's a new player in the works that has airplay 2 (there simply has to) and despite only getting my playbar recently you cant wait forever thinking the upgrade is around the corner without any certainty.

At least echo dot adds the voice control (unfortunately not siri but that at least is good for radio use). I can use my apple TV to give some siri control but obviously there are negatives associated with that. Pity theres no echo dot equivalent for siri that can connect to paybar

Hi guys, thanks for the feedback, and great discussion. As melvimbe and jgatie said, "group" is a specific Sonos action in this case, something you do within the Sonos app by pressing the group button. It's different from making a stereo pair or bonding surround speakers.

I'll make sure to pass along your feedback to the team about your confusion around the messaging. I hope you've gotten your answer at this point, but let me know if you have any more.

It is your home theater product (Playbar, Playbase or Beam) that will determine your setup’s AirPlay 2 compatibility, as that device controls the room.

Hi Ryan,

I know this topic has been done to death on here (hence not starting a new thread and instead quoting your post here) but the one thing I haven’t been able to see any clarification on is this...

“Is it possible for software upgrades to make the ones enable Airplay and/or voice control on a home theatre set up with a playbar in the future.”

Then if so is it something that is being worked on already?

Airplay does add convenience to my other speakers (eg when has ones set up independently, airport express linked to connect amp) to use apps not supported by Sonos and while I’m not in the lynch mob of thinking I’ve been ripped off, it is frustrating knowing components of my set up are essentially disabled.

Knowing if it is a future possibility or not would at least be interesting to know

Thanks!

Is Mr Richard correct with his statement :-
"you HAVE to have an internet connection before the controller will work"
I guess he is using sonophone app instead?

Don't be a baby JohnBaby. Melvimbe DID answer and you didn't. Paul made his comment before he had chance to read my Post of 5 months; so not his fault.
That's why I said this is the wrong Post and thanked you all as i got my answer....... but you whinge on.
You need to read in full - that's twice I've said that btw. Your comprehension sklls are poor. Move on..........

John B - thanks for all that but...........you've obviously not read ALL of that thread from the other post. I get what you are saying. As I say, been there - done that and it won't work. I already did everything you suggested. And more. Sonos are of no help and I've tried. They are clueless and the reason is simple...what you are doing is missing a very crucial part - that you HAVE to have an internet connection before the controller will work. I don't care if yours works ok for you - FIVE technically savy ppl cannot get mine working. So, I really don't want to discuss this further as this is the wrong place for it. I will say one thing, that there is one soulution and that is for Sonos to fix their software so it does NOT look for a connection to the net before it will open. They will not do this, so consequently I have a dud system.

THIS POST was about whether I could use the new Airplay2 feature. This is what Paulw123, has missed. I have read that if I had a Play one I could get that setup and connect to the Playbar but what I'm now realising is that I'm still at square 1, in that in setting up the Play One I would need that internet connection. We are simply giving up on Sonos ad saving to buy another system. In the meantime I purchased a thrid party controller - it just connects and works (hear that Sonos!!!), but it does not have a few features that the Sonos controller has and it makes it cumbersome because of that.

Many thank for the comments from all of you.

Been there - done that guys. Read this post of 5 months ago; you are both wrong.
https://en.community.sonos.com/setting-up-sonos-228990/get-rid-of-the-annoying-update-request-6802672
BELIEVE ME PLEASE - I'll happily pay your airfare to NZ to fix this if I thought for a nano second you could do it. It isn't possible. So, moving on...can anyone please tell me help me with my query. Thank you.You are simply wrong. If there is a mobile signal you could get your system working like this:
1. Factory reset all Sonos speakers in the church setup (accepting that playlists etc will be lost)
2. Using your mobile to provide a hotspot, do a standard new Sonos system setup. You will have to use another device to act as controller, the phone cannot do this while acting as hotspot. I suggest you uninstall and reinstall the latest app version on this controller. I guess you would use the Mac, in which case your music stored there would be available.
3. Set up Sonos music library (if not done as part of system setup anyway)
4. You could then play music stored locally as before. You won't be using any mobile data when playing local content.

You could afterwards transfer the LAN responsibilities to a router. A travel router with an Ethernet port would be best. As stated in my earlier post, I have been playing local music without difficulty today, having disconnected the internet.

I am sure you will dismiss this with some sort of rude comment, but it is a genuine attempt to help.

Mr Richard, why have you jumped onto this thread. You need to start a new one and ask for a sonos employee like Ryan for help.
Have you contacted sonos support?
I do not know if sonos has changed to only work with an internet connection or not.

I guess you have upgraded your sonos app at home, and hence all your sonos home products. The sonos player in your church now needs updating as well to the same release as the app you are trying to control it with. You need to bring it home where it can connect to the internet to update. Then take it back to the church again. This probably won't be a painless exercise though.....
Do you have a router at the church it connects to? or do you use the line in of a PLAY5 ?

I have two Sonos setups, one at home and one at a church with no internet connection. The latter is useless – a complete waste of money since Sonos upgraded the App with a feature that forces an internet connection before it will work. Everything worked well for years and then – poof – useless!
So now I’m reading about the Airplay2 and am wondering if I may be able to get around my issue. I’m reaching out and asking the question, if I buy a Play One and connect to that and then group that (if that’s the term), with the Playbar, can I then use my iPad to play music via iTunes, which resides on a Macmini. I used to be able to do exactly this (as I said above), and I’m wondering, since I won’t be using the rubbish Sonos app any more, but the iPad, that this may be a workaround? Anyone got any clear idea please or have I got this all backwards?

I get that. I'm rather used to Sonos terminology that I forget that other people don't see it that way sometimes.

Again, it's a matter of understanding what Sonos means when using the word 'group'.

This would also make me believe it would work.

This for example.

That's an accurate statement. The issue is in what a 'group' is within Sonos terms. When you setup Sonos One as surrounds with a playbar, they are bonded to the playbar, not grouped. Grouping is the term used for linking together audio from different rooms with the app.

I get why you'd think sorrounds are grouped to a playbar, as group is a generic word in English, but it's more specific when referring to Sonos speakers.