Support Windows 8 RT for Surface Tablet and Windows Phone 8 for Mobile Devices
This is not a full windows 8 platform but will work new surface tablet and Samsung and others plan to use this OS which is not fully windows 8 compatible. It would be very helpful if sonos would support this as the tablet looks promising.
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There is where you're wrong. UWP is NOT just Windows Phone, it's all Windows 10 devices, Laptop, Desktop, Surface, Phone, XBOX the whole bunch. The desktop app indeed is horrible on touch, hence the need for a UWP app.
I did not pick the wrong phone, I have both iPhone and 2 windows phones.
Yes, yes, yes, we know the mantra: "UWP is not just for phones!!!!" Blah, blah, blah. Sonos obviously does not see the advantage of going to a UWP interface when the current Windows controller does 95% of a UWP and is already working and paid for. The market for "Surface, Phone, XBOX the whole bunch" is obviously a very small fraction of that for laptops and desktops. Not to hard to figure out, is it?
hundreds of millions dog in that case...?
I have plenty of devices that work with voice. Like the Athom Homey, Xbox, cortana on my phone and laptop, siri on my iOS devices. They all have one in common. They just don't work when you listen to music.
Hundreds of millions are already being served by the current desktop application. We are really talking about mobile users which are vanishingly small, and not worth Sonos abandoning the current desktop app to capture. It is simple finances. The current desktop controller works fine, if not optimally for touch users, and the cost of upgrading is not offset by the number of users to be gained. Sorry, but you picked the wrong mobile device, and trying to lump it in with 270 million desktop and laptop users, when even Microsoft says their mobile market is "unsustainable", is disingenuous at best, not to mention pathetic.
There is where you're wrong. UWP is NOT just Windows Phone, it's all Windows 10 devices, Laptop, Desktop, Surface, Phone, XBOX the whole bunch. The desktop app indeed is horrible on touch, hence the need for a UWP app.
I did not pick the wrong phone, I have both iPhone and 2 windows phones.
hundreds of millions dog in that case...?
I have plenty of devices that work with voice. Like the Athom Homey, Xbox, cortana on my phone and laptop, siri on my iOS devices. They all have one in common. They just don't work when you listen to music.
Hundreds of millions are already being served by the current desktop application. We are really talking about mobile users which are vanishingly small, and not worth Sonos abandoning the current desktop app to capture. It is simple finances. The current desktop controller works fine, if not optimally for touch users, and the cost of upgrading is not offset by the number of users to be gained. Sorry, but you picked the wrong mobile device, and trying to lump it in with 270 million desktop and laptop users, when even Microsoft says their mobile market is "unsustainable", is disingenuous at best.
Early signs point to Sonos using Alexa/Echo voice technology, which works great when listening to music. The fact the others do not means Sonos is looking in the right direction. There's that vision thing again. 😉
http://www.winbeta.org/news/sonos-says-no-windows-10-universal-app
Nothing happened except they realize a dog when they see one. They are still concentrating on things which will actually bring in sales and grow the company. Voice control is OS independent and the wave of the future. Who needs an app when you can simply talk to your devices? That is great vision.
hundreds of millions dog in that case...?
I have plenty of devices that work with voice. Like the Athom Homey, Xbox, cortana on my phone and laptop, siri on my iOS devices. They all have one in common. They just don't work when you listen to music.
http://www.winbeta.org/news/sonos-says-no-windows-10-universal-app
Nothing happened except they realize a dog when they see one. They are still concentrating on things which will actually bring in sales and grow the company. Voice control is OS independent and the wave of the future. Who needs an app when you can simply talk to your devices? That is great vision.
What happened? From a company with great vision to nothing?
http://www.winbeta.org/news/sonos-says-no-windows-10-universal-app
http://www.winbeta.org/news/sonos-says-no-windows-10-universal-app
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Hey guys, I think I can speak for most of the thread hear when I suggest we take a breather. Let's remember to stay on point. This is the place to come for Windows mobile controller requests, let's keep it friendly for that purpose. We don't have any news currently or plans to share at the moment, but we'll let you know if there are any updates.
Once again, I loathe Apple, so I don't own an iPhone. Let me guess: Accusing someone of being an Apple fanboy so ingrained in your psyche, you forget what was posted mere hours ago?
Nice use of the thesaurus on your iPhone.
I have no idea what that means, but I assume it is yet another childish retort, and thus will treat it as such.
I can, but your posts are as good as the location you it in AKA the bog.
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Come on SONOS, give us an app that works well on a Windows tablet install!
I will post what I like, where I like, when I like. As long as I do not violate TOS, my posts will stay. Sorry if you can't handle that.
Why can't you two just let us windows phone users moan. It's what we do, I use an old android phone as a controller for a bit and get annoyed at how rubbish it after a few weeks and come here to see if anything changes. All I can see is they are laying off staff, to "refocus" I read as it's not going too well at them moment. Windows support probably isn't the answer, but not sure some of the latest feature additions are either.
So, you don't think people with differing opinions should be allowed to express them? You also say that expressing that opinion is a "waste of time"? Who is being condescending now?
I can only speak for myself, and Windows desktop is what I use each and every day. On the other hand Windows Phone/Mobile appears -- at least for now -- to be struggling, to the point where even the MS CEO was reported as describing its market share as unsustainable. Sonos will presumably invest their R&D money where the best immediate returns lie.
The other point I choose to challenge is where a poster takes the narrow-minded viewpoint that UWP is now the be-all and end-all of Windows development, when the majority remain with operating systems that only support Win32 applications.
As for 'always turning up', some of us are regulars who have for years chosen to offer voluntary assistance to users in need.
Well you are in good company then, however you must admit your condescending tone is that of an appleboy. Not sure why you two always turn up on a windows related posts, why bother if windows is such a waste of space. Why waste your time?
As ratty stated, I'm no Apple fanboy. I loathe the company, and its founder. But I'm also a realist, and know a dog when I see it.
Accusing jgatie of being an Apple fanboy?! An unwise move. Excuse me while I don my radiation suit and retire to a safe distance....
Ahh condescending others the only bastion of a apple fan boy 😉
Ahhh, demographics. The last bastion of something which is failing to seize an audience. I'm sure Sonos has a pretty good handle on the demo breakdown of their purchasers. If Windows apps drove sales, they'd be offering one.
Jgatie - windows mobile may have a small market share, but the makeup of the users fit the target market better I.e males aged 25-45. Would it not be better for sonos target these people than say android/ios that may have most of the market but a significant % of this would never buy a sonos system.
Yeah, I'm sure lack of a Windows app, which no other multi-Room streamer has by the way, is the reason they are laying off some workers in order to hire others with voice control expertise. :rolleyes
Layoff's at Sonos? I bet none of the Windows users are surprised. Everyone told Sonos what it needed to do to stay relevant but did they listen? How about an outdoor solution? How about waterproof? How about Windows 10 and mobile support? They're afraid of the Amazon Echo? Good luck turning the ship around.
And yes, I use Groove religiously. Playing across my phone, my pc, my tablet, and my Xbox One, and Sonos seamlessly... it's quite brilliant. At least Sonos got that right.
And yes, I use Groove religiously. Playing across my phone, my pc, my tablet, and my Xbox One, and Sonos seamlessly... it's quite brilliant. At least Sonos got that right.
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Groove Music! Wow does anyone ever use that?
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