Sonos One and DLNA

M
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Hi,

 

I read a lot about Sonos and DLNA and my question is why is not yet possible to play music from a DLNA server running on a NAS?

The Sonos app show the NAS and let me navigate through folders but when I try to play music says: Unable to add music to queue.

It makes no sense to me. Why should I use the obsolete samba protocol to share folders over my network while the DLNA protocol exists?

Sonos is almost perfect but this is a big disqualification.

My Samsung TV sees and play music from my NAS. Obviously I don’t want to play music on my TV and this is why I bought a Sonos speaker.

 

Regards

Max 

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C
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Used same settings as you... But tracks only play for 5 secs. Then reset.  Grrrr. 

chicks

Sadly, now Spotty and Tidal no longer work.... 

I don’t have a Tidal sub, but have been playing Spotty all morning, without issue.  Here are my general and Sonos-specific settings in the plugin:

 

C
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Sadly, now Spotty and Tidal no longer work.... 

chicks

Testing good here, too.

Sonos just up and changed their user-agent, without warning, with zero release notes.  Sigh. :disappointed:


How is the updated user agent different from the one described at https://developer.sonos.com/build/content-service-get-started/soap-requests-and-responses/ ?

No idea.  From the developer of the LMS-UPnP Plugin:

> Looks like they have changed something on their HTTP handling. Can you try with HTTP mode back to chunk or no-length?

> [edit]: indeed, they have changed their user-agent...

controlav
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Testing good here, too.

Sonos just up and changed their user-agent, without warning, with zero release notes.  Sigh. :disappointed:


How is the updated user agent different from the one described at https://developer.sonos.com/build/content-service-get-started/soap-requests-and-responses/ ?

Author of the leading independent Sonos app for Windows, the only Sonos app for Xbox, and a Sonos app for iOS
chicks

Testing good here, too.

Sonos just up and changed their user-agent, without warning, with zero release notes.  Sigh. :disappointed:

C
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Plugin 1.62.0 looking good.  Tested with live mp3 streams. 

C
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Update:

It seems the http protocol has changed.  However, live streams in flac format seem to work, eg Radio Paradise.

Intrepid testers needed over at the other place!

 

Update plugin 1.62.0 available for testing

C
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TuneIn radio stations working fine from LMS to my other DLNA/UPnP renderers.  I also fired up my old S1-only Connect, and updated its firmware.  Same issue.  It’s currently showing v 11.2.9.  Sonos S1 release notes only up to 11.2.6.  Sigh.

 

https://support.sonos.com/s/article/4941?language=en_US

 

 

It's not just TuneIn - all live radio links are knackered

 

Pity you can't recall the url scheme change you mentioned

chicks

TuneIn radio stations working fine from LMS to my other DLNA/UPnP renderers.  I also fired up my old S1-only Connect, and updated its firmware.  Same issue.  It’s currently showing v 11.2.9.  Sonos S1 release notes only up to 11.2.6.  Sigh.

 

https://support.sonos.com/s/article/4941?language=en_US

 

 

C
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Hmm.... Seems you are using the renderer plugin and not the upnp bridge plugin. 

What is puzzling is how a sonos software update (rather than a firmware update) has modified the upnp feature. 

But there was a Sonos firmware update from 13.1 to Version: 13.1.1 (build 63289260) and that is when I noticed the problem streaming radio.

Ah!  Hadn't noticed that.   Wonder what changed? 

chicks

Ah, I have LMS set to auto update. It wasn’t showing up, as it was updated and I hadn’t rebooted in months. Rebooted, and it’s now showing up. 
 

 

brookheather
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Hmm.... Seems you are using the renderer plugin and not the upnp bridge plugin. 

What is puzzling is how a sonos software update (rather than a firmware update) has modified the upnp feature. 

But there was a Sonos firmware update from 13.1 to Version: 13.1.1 (build 63289260) and that is when I noticed the problem streaming radio.

C
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Hmm.... Seems you are using the renderer plugin and not the upnp bridge plugin. 

What is puzzling is how a sonos software update (rather than a firmware update) has modified the upnp feature. 

brookheather
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Interesting.  Mine is still showing version 1.0 on piCorePlayer LMS server, v 8.1.1.  Not sure how to update it to 1.61?

 

 

There is another plug-in to send the stream to Sonos:

UPnP/DLNA bridge (v1.61.0)  Use UPnP/DLNA players in LMS  
chicks

Interesting.  Mine is still showing version 1.0 on piCorePlayer LMS server, v 8.1.1.  Not sure how to update it to 1.61?

 

 

brookheather
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The bridge plugin was updated last week to 1.61.0

Yes I am already on 1.61.0.

C
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The bridge plugin was updated last week to 1.61.0

chicks

Testing this with the C5 app on my iPhone. Selecting “Office Sonos”, which is the virtual Sonos Play:1 stereo pair via LMS, I’m getting the issue. Selecting the master Play:1 via C5’s built in DLNA server, playing fine. So, something Sonos changed affected the LMS bridge plugin, as it hasn’t been updated in ages. 

 


 


 

C
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Which version of the bridge are you using?  Mine is 1.61.0

chicks

I swear I was reading just the other day about some sort of change to the URI scheme for radio stations in Sonos, but can’t find it now.  Instead of http:// or https://, some other scheme is being used now.  No idea if it’s related, or if I’m just mis-remembering something, lol.

Airgetlam

FWIW, the current version is for iOS / MacOS 13.1.2. To the best of my knowledge, the only “fix” in that release is the crash when using the search function, but your guess is as good as mine. I don’t know any specifics about 13.1.1.

I wish that Sonos would understand how to better do releases, including doing release notes for every release, not just “major” feature notes. 

Bruce
chicks

Ah, yep, stops after a few secs and repeats when playing from TuneIn or BBC Sounds.  Sigh.  What has Sonos done now!? :(

 

No release notes yet for 13.1.1

https://support.sonos.com/s/article/3521?language=en_US

brookheather
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Sonos devices work fine as UPnP/DLNA renderers.  I use them that way from my LMS server and the UPnP plugin, controlled by the Material Skin.

chicks - is this still working since the recent Sonos 13.1.1 update?  I can’t stream anymore to my Sonos devices with LMS - the first few seconds plays and then it stops and repeats.  I can still stream fine to my Marantz amplifier so it looks like a change on the Sonos end.

Working fine for me on 13.1.1 from LMS.

Spotty and local streaming works fine but radio streaming from TuneIn and BBC Sounds isn’t working - can you please check a radio stream from TuneIn and see if that works?

chicks

Sonos devices work fine as UPnP/DLNA renderers.  I use them that way from my LMS server and the UPnP plugin, controlled by the Material Skin.

chicks - is this still working since the recent Sonos 13.1.1 update?  I can’t stream anymore to my Sonos devices with LMS - the first few seconds plays and then it stops and repeats.  I can still stream fine to my Marantz amplifier so it looks like a change on the Sonos end.

Working fine for me on 13.1.1 from LMS.

 

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