Request for a hardware remote control with physical buttons to control Sonos Speakers



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Here is an upcoming product that may prove promising..

https://www.senic.com


$159 pre order. Echo is $179, available today, has equal ability to control Sonos (with free helper app), and FAR more capable. Echo Dot even cheaper. Doubt this thing will get any traction.
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Amazon Echo is a voice controlled device. The whole point of this thread is a call for a device with physical buttons to control Sonos, only in this case it's a dial.
Amazon Echo is a voice controlled device. The whole point of this thread is a call for a device with physical buttons to control Sonos, only in this case it's a dial.

You must have missed this in the OP:

Option 7: Wait for Sonos to bring voice control?
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i didn't miss that, but this is what it says:

I am aware that there are alternatives, but none of them are as easy to use and as simple as a small hardware RF remote control with say 6 preset buttons.

These are the alternatives I have looked into so far:

Option 7: Wait for Sonos to bring voice control?
While I like hardware controllers with hard buttons, I don't think that the mass market appreciates this sort of thing because it is not as "cool".

There were numerous complaints about the original CR100 not being "touch". Complainers would point to their phone that did allow touch. While the CR200 was touch, the big complaint was its cost relative to a phone or pad. The claim was that the customer already had a phone, therefore the controller was "free". Regardless of cost or utility, it is hard to compete with "free".

As I watch pad/phone users, particularly the young ones, they seem to look for excuses to touch and drag. Buttons are for grandparents who are not "cool".

By the way, the CR100 is water resistant. I still see disgustingly polluted CR100 in kitchens -- and they are working just fine. (albeit with limited battery run time because the battery was designed to last five years) Only the latest versions of phone/pads are touting "water resistant".

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If you are the D.I.Y. type, here is a hard button project.
Completely agree with the OP.

I've lived with, and expanded, my Sonos set up for the past year now, and the absence of a simple 2-3 button remote as might come with a Firestick, Roku etc is utterly infuriating. The fact is many users do not carry their phone/device everywhere, and the app will never have the immediacy of interface that a simple remote does.

Of course, in investing in Sonos, you are buying into the app controller etc, and that is great, but there is no escaping the fact that a wifi-enabled device is horribly clunky for the most basic function - on/off and volume control.

From a pure marketing point of view, it makes even less sense.

For example - I recently decided to part with by Ruark/Vita R4 which I have had in my kitchen for 6 years. I'm not sure if these are available in the US, but they are a wonderful british hi-fi/CD/DAB unit with two speakers and a sub built-into a stunning wooden cabinent.. The remote with it controls everything, and takes some getting use to, but at its centre is a large on/off-volume control knob. Having invested in Play1s for almost every other room, I went for a Play 5 to replace the Ruark and there isn't a day that goes by when I don't regret the absence of a simple remote. There are only two locations in my kitchen/diner which are suitable locations for the Play5 - on top of the fridge (it's a pretty weird kitchen) and the other side of the room, so, if you have no device there, it is a massive pain in the ass to turn it up/down or off/on.

More's the point, the Play5 - in the UK at least - is in direct competition with something like the Ruark, and to not have a remote, at least included with the Play5, is just ridiculous.
There are several third party remotes available. Logitech Harmony, Lutron, and this one, among others http://iportproducts.com/xpress/#xpress-intro
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I have a Nuimo, and have had one from the earliest release last year. There is a thread on this forum about it.
To summarise my views, I love it. It was a romance slow to blossom but the latest firmware updates have made it a must have for me.
The issues:-
1. It’s quite expensive,
a. but is very well built
b. support is now good
c. it does more than just Sonos
2. It needs to be paired with a BT iPhone or Android device
a. Can be paired with Amazon Fire TV or Android TVs
b. I bought am Amazon Fire Tablet HD6 for £28 on Amazon warehouse which stays in the room for the Sonos to connect and be use a sa desiccated Sonos controller when making playlists or playing with settings etc
c. Any old android device running Kitkat or above will work as a link for it

The plus points

The rotating ring is superb for volume adjustment, far better than button.
Skipping tracks is good and easy with simple gestures in either direction.
You can assign 3 Sonos Favourites to it.
I have it set to control my Hue Bulbs in the same room and switching between functions could not be easier.

As I said it has been a slow burn romance, initially quite frustrating but the acid test is if it were stolen or was damaged, would I buy another? Hell yes.

Note I also have Alexa ann awaiting integration, but still think the Nuimo will be invaluable… and faster.

John
Xpress looks the right sort of thing as does the Lutron. Nuimo looks an even nicer solution, but all are ludicrously expensive for what they are. Xpress will not be available for another month or so, but I resent having to pay £100+ for a simple remote which Sonos should have supplied in the first place, although I'd pay that for the Numio at a push, but not €200...Logitech is both expensive and horrible.
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A few nuimos on fleabay for £100 As for Sonos providing one I don't see why that should be expected, given that the system uses wifi it would be uite complex to develop and produce as well as requiring software to connect to LANs etc. Given that you can get a cheap android device for £50 it would be a tough business case to prove a remote build. Plus it would be Sonos only.
I found this thread because like the author i soemtimes want something easier than my mobile to control my Sonos system. Has anyone tried the Logitech Pop Home Switch to start /stop music?

Also i see https://www.brilliant.tech/ will be offering a home solution soon (but wont work for me in the UK atm)
I may have gone overboard when I made a Sonos Play 5 my PC speaker, but it does a couple of things for me. 1. it gives me great sound from my PC and 2. it allows me to play anything from my computer to my Sonos sound system. ONE major drawback is volume control within Windows is awkward. I've been using the Windows app to control the volume, but I'm about to ditch Windows (because Windows 8 is stupid and 10 is not much better). Sonos doesn't make a Linux Sonos controller app (that I know of) so what am I to do when I install Linux Mint on my PC? I saw a couple of links in this thread that looked interesting. Nuimos looked cool until I saw that you have to go through an iPhone or iPad to control the Sonos speaker? If I need an iPhone by my PC at all times to control the volume on my PC speaker via hardware then why not just do so in the Sonos iPhone app? So the iPort xPRESS thing looks like it might work, but I'm not getting a lot of details from their site. Can anyone tell me more? I'm assuming that you configure with an iPhone but then I hope the iPhone no longer needs to be in the loop to control the volume of one Sonos Play 5.
I would love just a physical volume control that you could mount somewhere. If you want to change the volume quickly it can be difficult sometimes if you’re phone isn’t on you or takes time getting to the app. The wireless control is very convenient, but I would pay a lot just for a physical knob on my patio.
Beauchamp84, do you mean somewhere other than on top of the speaker?
Yes more specifically for the Connect Amp. My amp drives two outdoor speakers which can only be controlled by the app or going inside the cabinet to access the controls on the amp. A physical control would be really ideal outside.
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A Nuimo would offer this.
A Nuimo would offer this.
That is exactly what I’m looking for but after reading the reviews, it says it only connects thru Bluetooth on your phone and would have to have the app open for it to work. Have you used one by chance?
Could I use an old Sonos cr200 remote?
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Yes, I use my Nuimo all the time. It is linked to my iphone and ipad. I leave the app open all the time. I also have a £29 Amazon Fire tablet that I use just for Sonos, which is velcroed to the wall. Th Nuimo can also be paired to this.
Yes, I use my Nuimo all the time. It is linked to my iphone and ipad. I leave the app open all the time. I also have a £29 Amazon Fire tablet that I use just for Sonos, which is velcroed to the wall. Th Nuimo can also be paired to this.

So I could get a cheap tablet that’s connected to WiFi, then pair the Nuimo to that only?
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Yep. Any cheap android tablet. ( Scenic are also producing a nuimo hub), Must be capable of running recent android os though
This hardware remote is available...

https://iportproducts.com/xpress/#xpress-intro
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That does look interesting. From what I can gather you only need the iPhone/Pad to set it up and link it to your wifi then it no longer needs to be linked with the device.
That does look interesting. From what I can gather you only need the iPhone/Pad to set it up and link it to your wifi then it no longer needs to be linked with the device.

Correct, it uses wifi. Its the only remote in my opinion that's suitable. I have been meaning to order one but its 6 week shipping to the UK.
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This hardware remote is available...

https://iportproducts.com/xpress/#xpress-intro


Wouldn't it be easy to just use the buttons on the device, does that offer anything on top?

Another option here
https://www.brilliant.tech

I totally agree with the OP, I still use my CR200 although I am finding that it is not keeping up with the Android app anymore in terms of features. Surely Sonos could mass produce a chunky/durable Android based controller in the same casing as the CR200, maybe even wall-moutable. I'm sure most Sonos owners would pay £100 for such a device, i'd buy several. Thinking out loud... a wall-mountable controller could be PoE and also act as a Bridge/Boost

Voice control is not a replacement for a remote. How would you search for new music/playlists etc...