Is there any way to put a password on your sonos system?
Trying to stop everyone logging in and switching the play list, wondering if there is any way to put a password on the system so only those with the code can access the system
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Enjoying the cranberries I take it? :)
Having some kind of access management is definitely something to look into. Nothing beats a drunk party guest turning to volume all the way up - at 4 in the morning - as a friend (and his neighbors!) got to experience.
3 years and no replies from Sonos?
Having the same issue in the office. The employees ignore the fact that they're not supposed to access Sonos but many are using the app and we can't shut them out of the network.
We're fed up of people playing 80's classics and ruining our day! HELP!
Having the same issue in the office. The employees ignore the fact that they're not supposed to access Sonos but many are using the app and we can't shut them out of the network.
We're fed up of people playing 80's classics and ruining our day! HELP!
Clearly they don't. This has been an issue for years now, and there doesn't appear to be any security development at all. Personally, I was already aware of this flaw before purchasing my Sonos. However, I am an IT professional and am always looking at security for any networked device. The average person doesn't have my mindset and I can certainly understand their frustration with discovering this lack of security after the purchase. It really is a very BASIC security feature that should be available. That being said, it appears that the competition lacks this ability as well, so there's little incentive for Sonos to offer this.
However, I think the concept of the zero trust network is soon to be headed to people's homes, Sonos and the other smart-home device manufacturers will eventually need to address these concerns. Some have already started, but we'll just need to be patient for everyone else to catch up. Meanwhile, security conscious users will need to take matters into their own hands, and implement their own security.
Personally, I have implemented NAC on my home network. However, if your equipment doesn't support this (and I think most home networks don't), a simple solution could be to just plug in another wireless router into your existing router. Make sure this is a router (with firewall) and not just an access point, otherwise it would be pointless. Your Sonos equipment and any phones/tablets that need to control the Sonos would connect to this new network, while all other "untrusted" devices would remain on the original network. Yes, I understand that you shouldn't have to do this, and this introduces additional wireless interference concerns, and Sonos should have security functionality built in, but they don't. We can continue to complain, and I think we should to let Sonos know there are those demanding this feature, but meanwhile you shouldn't just wait and do nothing if you're really concerned about security.
However, I think the concept of the zero trust network is soon to be headed to people's homes, Sonos and the other smart-home device manufacturers will eventually need to address these concerns. Some have already started, but we'll just need to be patient for everyone else to catch up. Meanwhile, security conscious users will need to take matters into their own hands, and implement their own security.
Personally, I have implemented NAC on my home network. However, if your equipment doesn't support this (and I think most home networks don't), a simple solution could be to just plug in another wireless router into your existing router. Make sure this is a router (with firewall) and not just an access point, otherwise it would be pointless. Your Sonos equipment and any phones/tablets that need to control the Sonos would connect to this new network, while all other "untrusted" devices would remain on the original network. Yes, I understand that you shouldn't have to do this, and this introduces additional wireless interference concerns, and Sonos should have security functionality built in, but they don't. We can continue to complain, and I think we should to let Sonos know there are those demanding this feature, but meanwhile you shouldn't just wait and do nothing if you're really concerned about security.
None of these have replies I guess they don’t care
Please have this option available!
Sonos already provided the facility to separate systems by setting up separate households. Presently you can have your kids under separate systems from yours, but there is no way to stop them from jumping between them in the app
Adding the option to set a password to join a system would accomplish the scenario you describe afaict.
correct....I have 4 kids in house....2 not mine.....I want to stop them controlling the music in any zone. The downside of having a big Sonos system with 20+ components is that anybody that lives with you - i.e. 4 teenagers, can do whatever they want when you are entertaining friends - furthermore you can't tell which of the 6 of with access is doing mucking around. Basic necessity if you embrace the sonos system as wholeheartedly as i have.
Really annoying lack of functionality. Along with not being able to permantently link zones.
This is a sysetem built for 1-3 zone households.
They have not scaled the systems capabilities to keep pace with their own success in selling lots of speakers to big households.
Sonos already provided the facility to separate systems by setting up separate households. Presently you can have your kids under separate systems from yours, but there is no way to stop them from jumping between them in the app
Adding the option to set a password to join a system would accomplish the scenario you describe afaict.
Yes, but hen people will complain that they have speakers in every room, and their kids should be able to control their own speakers but not some others.
@sergeadam for sure, but given their aversion to granular options probably safe to say it would be simple such as a pin to associate a control to a system. Personally I don't think they will add a password, just my opinion though.
On the surface, it sounds like an easy request. But then, start thinking of the complexity. One password for any given install? One password for each group? One password for each device? A master password to allow to create groups? The complexity of this thing can escalate rather quickly.
I, for one, do NOT want "added security" aka cumbersome botheration to listen to my music thankyou very much
Having a password feature be optional wouldn't hinder you at all.
This thread is salty as ****.
As a product manager, prioritization is difficult, and you often can only lead your development teams through influence, so I understand that these things don't get answered.
That said, the people debating this topic don't seem to realize that a Sonos owner might not have control of the wifi. Imagine putting this in a dorm or shared office space. We'd love to use one in our coworking community without getting Rick rolled.
There's a time and place for proper security, and a little password can still go a long way.
As a product manager, prioritization is difficult, and you often can only lead your development teams through influence, so I understand that these things don't get answered.
That said, the people debating this topic don't seem to realize that a Sonos owner might not have control of the wifi. Imagine putting this in a dorm or shared office space. We'd love to use one in our coworking community without getting Rick rolled.
There's a time and place for proper security, and a little password can still go a long way.
Still waiting...
The comment wasn’t specifically aimed at you. However, when you say that you don’t have a problem with the request per se, your closing comment of your previous post suggested otherwise and that it would be ‘bothersome’. As I said in my post, I don’t see why that needs to be the case at all or why many/most users would even be affected.
And yes, there’s nothing at all wrong with general suggestions of proper discipline for those entrusted with wifi access. The issue with said advice is that it’s usually given as THE solution to people’s problem with the lack of Sonos access control without understanding the context or questioning any reasoning for a user’s particular setup.
As I said, while the advice for a guess wifi access may suit some, it isn’t appropriate for others. Suggestions for more discipline required may equally be correct in some cases – but rather offensive in others.
And yes, there’s nothing at all wrong with general suggestions of proper discipline for those entrusted with wifi access. The issue with said advice is that it’s usually given as THE solution to people’s problem with the lack of Sonos access control without understanding the context or questioning any reasoning for a user’s particular setup.
As I said, while the advice for a guess wifi access may suit some, it isn’t appropriate for others. Suggestions for more discipline required may equally be correct in some cases – but rather offensive in others.
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Actually. I don't have a problem with the request per se. It's perfectly valid that some people want this "feature" and clearly some do.
However, I do take issue when people invent specious reasoning viz "We are in 2017. EVERY connected device should be protected by password, full stop" - That, again, is a valid opinion but as a blanket statement of fact - not having it, sorry.
And what's wrong with suggesting proper discipline for those given the responsibility of full access to your Wi-Fi network?
However, I do take issue when people invent specious reasoning viz "We are in 2017. EVERY connected device should be protected by password, full stop" - That, again, is a valid opinion but as a blanket statement of fact - not having it, sorry.
And what's wrong with suggesting proper discipline for those given the responsibility of full access to your Wi-Fi network?
Yes, the repeated mantra of ‘educate/discipline’ your children / it’s up to you who you let on your network etc. all seem to miss the point I think of why many people are requesting this.
Just because I let somebody onto my network should not (and does not, in any semblance of a ‘proper’ network) mean they can do anything they like on it. While some may allow them on purely for internet access (in which case, as suggested, just allow them access to guest WiFi), some may let them on and allow guest access to a NAS. They cannot do this on Guest WiFi. You may let them on to see a shared media folder from my PC. They cannot do this on Guest WiFi. I can and do choose to password protect other areas and devices. i.e. adding them to a guest WiFi would not give them access to what I want them to access.
With many devices the access control can be more granular yet the oft repeated mantra here appears to be that access to one’s home network and Sonos has to be synonymous – I don’t see why that has to be the case. As above, there can be very legitimate reasons why one would wish somebody to have access to a network – but not a Sonos system residing on it.
As far as ‘access control’ goes, for many/most, it could simply be OFF and would completely behave as it does now.. Or, it could require a password each time it is accessed (can’t EVER see me using that).. However, one option I see a use case for is for any first time access to require a PIN. That way, users allow people onto their network and give them access to the data they need them to see – but are not opening their Sonos system to any other shenanigans, ‘funny’ or otherwise.
I have no problem at all with Sonos adding an access control OPTION to the system. Well implemented it would not affect me. There are so many comments by users in this thread and others opposing things that don’t even affect them. Other than ignoring such requests, like many do seem to do, or commenting and moving on, sometimes the strength of opposition, to something they wouldn’t even be affected by is brilliantly funny - yet rather sad at the same time.
Accept some people have use cases different to your own and move on.
Just because I let somebody onto my network should not (and does not, in any semblance of a ‘proper’ network) mean they can do anything they like on it. While some may allow them on purely for internet access (in which case, as suggested, just allow them access to guest WiFi), some may let them on and allow guest access to a NAS. They cannot do this on Guest WiFi. You may let them on to see a shared media folder from my PC. They cannot do this on Guest WiFi. I can and do choose to password protect other areas and devices. i.e. adding them to a guest WiFi would not give them access to what I want them to access.
With many devices the access control can be more granular yet the oft repeated mantra here appears to be that access to one’s home network and Sonos has to be synonymous – I don’t see why that has to be the case. As above, there can be very legitimate reasons why one would wish somebody to have access to a network – but not a Sonos system residing on it.
As far as ‘access control’ goes, for many/most, it could simply be OFF and would completely behave as it does now.. Or, it could require a password each time it is accessed (can’t EVER see me using that).. However, one option I see a use case for is for any first time access to require a PIN. That way, users allow people onto their network and give them access to the data they need them to see – but are not opening their Sonos system to any other shenanigans, ‘funny’ or otherwise.
I have no problem at all with Sonos adding an access control OPTION to the system. Well implemented it would not affect me. There are so many comments by users in this thread and others opposing things that don’t even affect them. Other than ignoring such requests, like many do seem to do, or commenting and moving on, sometimes the strength of opposition, to something they wouldn’t even be affected by is brilliantly funny - yet rather sad at the same time.
Accept some people have use cases different to your own and move on.
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We are in 2017. EVERY connected device should be protected by password, full stop. (then it's your responsibility if the password is too easy). Of course we can all setup guest wifi, or setup a wifi dedicated to sonos, or don't give password of the wifi to no one... At the end of the day it would be much easier for everybody if the system could be protected. Like my TV, my PS4, my set top box, my camera, my NAS, my whatever... Funny how Sonos considers login with complex password is required to publish comments on this forum, while considers protecting its own devices is not really needed...
Nonsense
Sonos is just a smart radio or Turntable.
Furthermore, the only people who have access to your Sonos system are those you have entrusted with your Wi-Fi password.
I, for one, do NOT want "added security" aka cumbersome botheration to listen to my music thankyou very much
We are in 2017. EVERY connected device should be protected by password, full stop. (then it's your responsibility if the password is too easy). Of course we can all setup guest wifi, or setup a wifi dedicated to sonos, or don't give password of the wifi to no one... At the end of the day it would be much easier for everybody if the system could be protected. Like my TV, my PS4, my set top box, my camera, my NAS, my whatever... Funny how Sonos considers login with complex password is required to publish comments on this forum, while considers protecting its own devices is not really needed...
If your router permits you to, you might consider activating a guest wifi and give your visitors it's password. In that way they won't have access to the main wifi, on which you have installed the Sonos gear.
Just installed my first sonos system, yesterday. Easy to set up, good sound, many options to connect to whatever source your want... Great ! but no way to secure your setup ?!
So, for what it's worth considering the many, many months customers have been requesting this, please note another one is just asking the same thing: I'd like to be able to let others (kids, friends, visitors) use my sonos, not necessarily change the setup !
Philippe
So, for what it's worth considering the many, many months customers have been requesting this, please note another one is just asking the same thing: I'd like to be able to let others (kids, friends, visitors) use my sonos, not necessarily change the setup !
Philippe
Kiiefa,
Sonos doesn't share their roadmap or pretty much any plans with us (with a couple of exceptions: Apple Music, Spotify integration and Amazon Echo integration, and with all of those, it was pretty much a "when it's done" time frame). They've never been explicit about what will be included in the next software release, or even when it is going to happen, until the point at which they release it, and then tell us what they included. So no, I'm certainly not expecting it in the near future. But who knows, it could be tomorrow.
I'd suggest a baseball bat for your girlfriend's brother. Or change the password on your Wifi, and just don't give it to him.
Sonos doesn't share their roadmap or pretty much any plans with us (with a couple of exceptions: Apple Music, Spotify integration and Amazon Echo integration, and with all of those, it was pretty much a "when it's done" time frame). They've never been explicit about what will be included in the next software release, or even when it is going to happen, until the point at which they release it, and then tell us what they included. So no, I'm certainly not expecting it in the near future. But who knows, it could be tomorrow.
I'd suggest a baseball bat for your girlfriend's brother. Or change the password on your Wifi, and just don't give it to him.
Similar problem here, living in a shared house with one joint wifi (owned/controlled by the landlord) so I can't stop my house mates (and their guests) from changing the volume on my music. I think it is very poor from a tech company that after customers have asked for this for years they still don't offer at least an option inside the system for these kind of situations.
Most wireless routers have a GUEST Network option. Set up the GUEST Network and keep your Sonos system on your PRIMARY wireless network. Do not share the password for your PRIMARY wireless network. Rather, provide your friends and guest access to the GUEST network only. By separating the two networks, you eliminate access to the Sonos by anyone not on your PRIMARY network. Your friends and guests can access the internet but cannot see your Sonos system.
I'm not personally concern or care about Sonos not having authentication, but can accept that some user have legitimate use cases/pov that require password even.
No. No. and No.
There are devices I own that I let people access, like a Fire TV or a tablet, but nobody gets anything but my Guest password for their own devices. There is absolutely no reason for it. And while I can accept that people want a password, I find the vast majority to be either incredibly naïve or incredibly hypocritical if they are worried sick about not trusting someone with the volume on their Sonos, but don't care a whit about them having access to their local LAN. Anyone who can't be trusted to not blast The Barney Song at 2AM is not getting inside my firewall, period.
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