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do you have issues with Microsoft and thats why there's no windows app

  • 4 November 2014
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I hate to participate in thread necromancy, but Lamaara is exactly right. The Windows mobile share is less than 1% according to most sources at this time.

For comparison, at the rate of sales for 4Q 2016 - there would be roughly the same number of Android devices sold every day that Windows moved annually. It simply isn't worth the R&D dollars.
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Interesting in the fact others have posted screenshots from developer site at Microsoft showing it. As always I guess we have to wait and see.
On my recent question for a Windows Phone app (after insisting - and the standard initial reply of we don't have any news) Sonos support replied that they do not have an active alpha/beta program for Windows Phone.
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There are several 3rd party apps on Windows 8 / Windows Phone 8 like Phonos. 
The landscape is certainly changing but for a company of the size of Sonos its a challenge to assign developers to a platform like Windows 8 / Windows 8 Phone when they have plenty of feature requests and bug fixes on iPhone and Android in the pipeline.

Help is in sight with Microsoft's "universal development platform" for Windows which should allow Sonos to use the code from their existing Windows controller app and reuse most of it across all Windows devices including Windows Phone and XBox.
There are several 3rd party apps on Windows 8 / Windows Phone 8 like Phonos. 
If it was just about the money why develop any apps, people would normally have a pc with windows or a Macbook which can control sonos
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There are several 3rd party apps on Windows 8 / Windows Phone 8 like Phonos. 
This usually goes the other way around, where the OEM (Microsoft) sponsors the vendor (Sonos). Likely Sonos is not on their radar (not a big surprise as Microsoft aims for Android/Apple market shares) or they can't find an agreement.
But this is pure speculation 😉
There are several 3rd party apps on Windows 8 / Windows Phone 8 like Phonos. 
It will benefit them because the larger potential market offsets the cost of developing the app. Would you spend millions to sell thousands, or would you wait until you could sell millions?
There are several 3rd party apps on Windows 8 / Windows Phone 8 like Phonos. 
How will it benefit them financially the apps they already have are free
There are several 3rd party apps on Windows 8 / Windows Phone 8 like Phonos. 
Or perhaps the answer is for Windows to obtain enough market penetration to allow Sonos to develop an app that will benefit them financially.
There are several 3rd party apps on Windows 8 / Windows Phone 8 like Phonos. 
Perhaps the answer is for sonos to develop one of the third-party apps and provide it free
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There are several 3rd party apps on Windows 8 / Windows Phone 8 like Phonos. 
so what your saying no one doing it so we wont
It's not selfish, it is realistic.  I never called for Sonos to not develop a Windows app, I only explained a perfectly valid reason why they are not developing one at this time.  Calling me selfish for simply pointing out the reality of the situation is indeed name calling.
so what your saying no one doing it so we wont
Don't see where I called you any name just pointed out that it was a very selfish way to look at it
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so what your saying no one doing it so we wont
Not selfish, just reality.  Name calling does not really help your cause. 😉
so what your saying no one doing it so we wont

that a very selfish attitude you have glad you are one of very few people who are like that
so what your saying no one doing it so we wont
Why should I do that? I own Android devices. And reasons are not excuses. Maybe you should spend more time convincing more people to use Windows devices, that is the only way you'll get your app.
so what your saying no one doing it so we wont
Perhaps in stead of making excuses for the lack of a windows phone app we should all get together and put pressure on Sonos to develop an app
so what your saying no one doing it so we wont
No, what I am saying is that more than likely when the penetration of Windows mobile gets to be somewhere around where Android was when they released that app, Sonos will support it.  As will other manufacturers who will now see it as a viable market.  Bottom line is, Windows percentage of the market is not high enough.  When it gets to be high enough, it will get attention.

By the way, you can check the forums for old posts on the Android app.  The same BS arguments were made about "Sonos hates Google!!" and "Sonos is in bed with Apple!!" and people were saying the same things about market penetration.  And guess what?  When Android grabbed enough of the market . . . lo and behold . . . Sonos put out an Android app.
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We.... I don't see any we's (Sonos) here
so what your saying no one doing it so we wont
What has surprised me is some people trying to defend the undefendable when there is a blatant problem that a company like sonos cant or wont produce an app for a particular software platform
Nobody is defending it.  It is what it is, i.e. the makers of multi-room audio systems will not support a mobile OS that does not have a large enough market penetration.  What it is not is some conspiracy laden BS like "the CIO or CTO . . .  absolutely hates Microsoft!"
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Maybe Microsoft should be pushing development by third parties more or providing more incentives. The fact is they have some major catching up to do. It is a fact that windows mobile apps are lacking from a lot of major developers. It is one of the biggest things holding back the platform. Trying to single out specific companies that have not developed windows apps could keep you very busy.
What has surprised me is some people trying to defend the undefendable when there is a blatant problem that a company like sonos cant or wont produce an app for a particular software platform
I'd say "issues" is putting it mildly. I firmly believe that the CIO or CTO at Sonos absolutely hates Microsoft.


Because many, many users store their music on their computers.  That's also why there is a Windows PC application.  The fact is, in the mobile OS world, Windows is a distant third.  Sonos didn't bring out an Android app until Android market penetration was worth the man-hours and expense.  It had nothing to do with Sonos hating Google.
I'd say "issues" is putting it mildly. I firmly believe that the CIO or CTO at Sonos absolutely hates Microsoft.


A lot more Windows Phones are sold than Mac OS X computers. For Q3/2014: 9.3 million Lumia phones (other WP phones not even included) and only 4.5 million Mac OS X computers. So, if it's only about the numbers, why is there an OS X app and no WP app?