Alarm speaker grouping

  • 19 August 2019
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I can see that this has been requested in the past but then the posts seem to die a death with no sign of the feature being implemented in the app so...again...why can't we set an alarm to play on a specific group of speakers rather than only having the option to "include grouped rooms"?

Use case: I have speakers in a bedroom, kitchen and living room. In the evening I often want to listen to music in the kitchen or bedroom while someone is watching TV in the living room so I ungroup my speakers. In the morning I want my alarm to play a radio station or play list on all speakers throughout the house. As it stands, unless I remember to re-group my speakers before going to sleep for the night the alarm will only play in the bedroom. Why can't I have a set of ticket boxes to select exactly what speakers to play the alarm on?

The only possible reason to not have this feature that I can think of is that it could cause confusion or frustration if an alarm interrupts a speaker that is already playing. For that case, why not have an additional Yes/No box to indicate whether I want my alarm to override a speaker if it's already playing or to ignore the active speaker and only sound on those that don't already have something playing?

Thankfully I have found a workaround to implement this feature myself by using a third party home automation hub but all this does is suggest that the feature can definitely be easily implemented as it's been achieved via reverse engineering and for Sonos not include it in their own app is just either poor design or laziness.

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You can read an ex-Sonos employees thoughts on many things, including the process to add the original Alarm feature, here: https://morganlinton.medium.com/three-things-i-learned-about-product-during-the-early-days-of-sonos-bdc37975bab8

Thanks for sharing this. The article itself doesn’t really give any new insights into the “alarm” functionality other then that they are struggling with this for a long time. Shame they can’t (or rather, won’t) solve this properly, especially given all the thought they put in other aspects of the product (e.g. packaging).

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You can read an ex-Sonos employees thoughts on many things, including the process to add the original Alarm feature, here: https://morganlinton.medium.com/three-things-i-learned-about-product-during-the-early-days-of-sonos-bdc37975bab8

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Nope. Nothing changed. It annoys me enormously that every morning it’s a crapshoot which rooms are still grouped with the room with the alarm.

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So I take it the alarm functionality still hasn’t been fixed? Even after the numerous requests on this forum? Amazing how such basic functionality isn’t available for a product which USP is having sound everywhere / multiple rooms / zones etc.

please.  bought the newer hardware and gave away the older stuff, hoping s2 would support this..  please.

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At the risk of being a “me too” …. ME TOO! Really don’t want to have to be thinking about which 3rd party app can help me, group, ungroup, mute, set a volume etc. Just want to be able to control the SonoS from the one app please.

Another +1 requesting this feature. No idea why it isn’t already available, seems like a no-brainer.

I have three Amazon Echo speakers dotted around the house and they are very useful as a daily alarm as they can be grouped so Spotify plays everywhere each morning, for a duration of my choosing. Better still, I can add other things to the morning routine, so I get news, weather, etc, before the music starts playing.

We enjoy the feature so much we thought about upgrading from Echo speakers to Sonos throughout the house in order to experience the better sound quality. Thought I’d check first to see if similar alarm functionality is available, and I’m amazed to find that it isn’t. Sadly, that alone rules out a Sonos purchase for us as the daily alarm in multiple rooms is a must-have feature.

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I’ll throw in my 2 cents as I too have wanted this feature for years.  

I have many Sonos components throughout my house, outside on patios, in garage workshop, etc.   In the morning I have an alarm to start background music through out my house;  in my office, the garage workshop, and outside patio.   Can you set individual component volumes 4A Grouped Alarm?  Of course not!  Looking at past threads this has been asked for 6+ years... My office background volume should be low 10-15%, the outside patio volume needs to be a little louder 25-30% to be heard due to the nature of being outside, my garage workshop uses a Connect to an old Sony Amp so it needs fixed volume.  I just added two Sonos One SL's to my network, one for the kitchen and one for the Pantry.  I want to add these to the group alarm for background music but those speakers are so efficient they need a volume level similar to my office 10% or .    AND then I hate if you accidentally ungroup your background speakers the next day the alarm only works in a limited number of rooms.  I like the idea others have suggested to recreate the group as part of the alarm definition! 
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After upgrading hardware so I could update to S2, I too am disappointed that this obvious feature is not in S2.

 

I made different groups:

downstairs: livingroom + kitchen

upstairs: bedroom + bathroom

morning: kitchen + bedroom + bathroom

 

@Sonos I need to be able to add a 07:00 am alarm to the group ‘morning’. So I can listen to morning radio shows in the areas I use in the morning.

 

In the evening I want to listen to music in the group ‘downstairs’. That ungroups kitchen from bedroom.
 

So in the morning, the alarm is set to bedroom, (cause I cannot add a group to an alarm!) and there is no music in the kitchen.

 

@Sonos you now have all the ingredients. Please fix this!

Can’t believe this hasn’t been prioritised, it seems like a massive oversight.

 

Please implement soon Sonos.

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Yeah nothing in the new app, though you can now create and save groups, so you’d think you’d be able to select one of these saved groups for an alarm!

 

Absolutely

 

and then drop the group when the alarm ends or is stopped by a user.

I have the same alarm on three Sonos speakers, all playing the same radio stream and as they are not grouped ever so slightly annoyingly out of sync.

Yeah nothing in the new app, though you can now create and save groups, so you’d think you’d be able to select one of these saved groups for an alarm!

Maybe a chance for an upcoming update now that there is this possibility…

I guess none of Sonos engineers are using the alarms (or Sonos products...) because this is so frustrating and it has been asked for so many years :sweat:  there are only unconvenient workarounds right now.

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Yeah nothing in the new app, though you can now create and save groups, so you’d think you’d be able to select one of these saved groups for an alarm!

Still nothing in their new app apparently.

We have all been waiting for this feature for years. It is ridiculous that I need to group all my speakers again every morning to hear my radio everywhere. 

Sonos could you please listen to your customers needs and deliver this feature or at least let us know if you intend to develop it at some point ?

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I came here to request this feature to, so adding my +1.

Having to remember to manually check/adjust room groupings before going to bed when an automated recurring alarm will run in the morning is not at all realistic or practical!

I want the radio to play throughout the house when my alarm goes off, which doesn’t seem to be a niche need?

Is this one on a feature request backlog somewhere? :)

I set up Yonomi this morning and it will group speakers in an alarm. It's a little fiddly to set up, but not difficult. It's not the ideal situation as a Sonos solution would be best, but it seems to work

 

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Exactly what I need too,

please sonos develop the possibility the select which room are included in the allarm.

please add the possiblity to add a room in an active group at a specific time

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I just received a new One SL today, to do exactly what the original poster wants to, I did not think to check up on the ability to group speakers for an alarm, I simply assumed that this feature was available.

How on earth is something like this not in the app?  Or for that matter, why can’t I save grouped rooms, so I can quickly switch between where the music plays, without having to tick each an every speaker on and off.

Its mindboggling that an app that has had so many years to mature are missing such simple features. :(

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Yup 15-years, and still waiting for this feature!

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https://en.community.sonos.com/controllers-software-228995/alarms-hidden-in-system-settings-with-10-4-6829754/index3.html#post16363541

  

On the 10.4.1 Android app there is now a bell symbol top left of the rooms screen which takes you directly to alarms.


We're testing this out with some Sonos controllers, but it's not available on all systems updated to 10.4.1 at this time. Some people will see it show up on their controllers over time as well. Based on use and performance, it may be added to all controllers in the future.

 

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The alarm shortcut in the Rooms page is a test that Sonos is doing, only a small number of users have it. 

I had no idea! How do you know that?

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The alarm shortcut in the Rooms page is a test that Sonos is doing, only a small number of users have it. 

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Huh.  I just looked on both iOS and Android and I don’t have the alarm bell in the upper right yet.  By the way I chuckled when i saw 93x and GO 96: I live in the Twin Cities too. ;-)

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On the latest mobile app version you can access alarms in the top left cover corner of the “rooms” tab, the icon even changes if you have alarms on or not  

 

That being said, I would trade that in an instant to be able to group rooms with an alarm...