The recent system update (to your speakers, not the app) added Apple Music lossless support but you need the new app updates to see the lossless indicator.

That said though, if you launch an Apple Music song from the old app, it will still play lossless but the indicator just won’t show on the old app (but will be seen on the new app).

PS. BTW the lossless indicator may not show immediately. A workaround to force it to appear is to scrub the song progress forward or backwards a few times and then it will kick in. Not sure why. 

I can’t believe that with all the negative furore about the new app, Sonos didn’t make any noise about the very welcome addition of Lossless audio for Apple Music. I only just found out it was on 80.00.04 0also requiring the firmware update] when I happened to read the release notes while updating to 80.00.08..!

It is weird…

This is a good and surprise addition. Kudos to Sonos for finally adding this. 

Literally signed up for Amazon Music like 20 minutes ago just for lossless music. I can also confirm that lossless is showing up for me.

For the indicator, I’ve read that for Amazon Music at least, the system needs time to check if the internet is fast and reliable enough to stream HIFI. After the initial check, it seems to stream lossless for the next songs instantly.

When playing a song (in full screen), the line which shows how far into a song you are (the circle moves along the line as the song plays) - slide the circle forward to a point further into the song, let it play, then slide it back again to earlier in the song, then repeat a couple of times. Miraculously this worked for me and the Lossless symbol now appears on all speakers. 

You would be wise to do that, for different reasons:

For many years till 2021, Sonos did not offer high bit stream audio, because they felt that the science did not support claims for audibly better sound quality from it. Further, when Apple started lossless services, the head of Apple Music - no less -  said in an interview that neither he nor his engineers could hear anything different from it compared to Apple lossy 256k streams. However what Apple has done is the old trick of making lossless play a little louder than lossy, because even a little louder seems better in a side by side comparison. 

Yes Sonos has only added this for certain speakers. Not supported on Playbase and “a few others”
 

Airplay doesn’t support Apple Lossless AFAIK

I see the lossless icon when (after moving back and forward) in the Sonos app.

I’m also using Alexa to control my Sonos devices. Does that make any difference for playing back lossless or not?

It’s such a shame. I have so many playlists where certain tracks, some purchased some ripped, just won’t play. I’ve dying for lossless from Apple to come in too.

Actually Sonos first supported Apple Lossless 18 years ago in Version 1.3.

I’m experiencing something similar. Apple Lossless seems to work on Move and a fairly new Amp (v 1.24.1.19-1.2) but not on older Amps (v. 1.17.3.1-1.1) or older Ports/Connect (v. 1.17.5.5-1.1). I contacted Sonos about this but support was useless. They cited ‘latency’ as the culprit vs. compatibility. 

I would rather use the native Apple Music app over the Sonos app as I can add artists and tracks as well as do simple things like shuffle all my tracks in Songs. 
 

does anyone know if using the native Apple Music app allows lossless audio to Sonos equipment? 

Airplay to Sonos speakers via Apple Music (or any service) is not lossless afaik. But I’m interested to know as well if this is still correct with the Apple Lossless on Sonos 

Does anyone know whether only certain speakers will play Apple Music Lossless? When I play on my Ray soundbar the lossless symbol shows up but not on my symfonisk lamps?

 

Yes Sonos has only added this for certain speakers. Not supported on Playbase and “a few others”
 

 

Did a list of ‘the few others’  ever get posted anywhere? I’m enjoying the Apple Lossless, but stream stops and restarts sometimes without lossless logo, when I add another speaker to group, I think its when I add a Play:1, but not 100% sure.

Definitely stops streaming lossless (or at least the badge immediately disappears) if I add my Play:1 to any song already streaming with the lossless badge.

I can airplay form Apple Music to a group of speakers that includes the Play:1 (not airplay compatible on its own, has to be grouped with airplay compatible speakers) and the lossless badge remains and continues playing to all speakers in lossless via Apple Music ‍♂️

A clear list of the speakers that won’t do lossless would be helpful.

Can we toggle OFF the Lossless playback from Apple? My system (14 devices) on the new software/firmware does not work with Apple Music now. Constant drop outs, some rooms won’t play at all once they drop (never come back), some never start playing to beginwith. I have far less issues playing SiriusXM (not perfect, but 90% success lately). I’ve spent 6-7 hours tweaking network settings, resetting devices, trying SonosNet vs all WiFi… I get the same result. 

Am I relegated to waiting on an app update and praying? 

Yeah we need to wait for Sonos to work out the bugs. Im pretty sure it’s not wifi network/bandwidth as I get some skipping on my wired port and amp when ungrouped, As well as other wireless speakers. 

I’m using WiFi for all my Sonos devices, nothing wired. Apple Music is my main source, I have not noticed frequent dropouts when playing Apple Lossless source to multiple zones. I maybe get one zone dropout every few days. If I click skip forward button in App (iOS or Windows Desktop) for next track it clears the issue, ie dropped zone rejoins instantly.

Was having the exact same issues with Apple Music Lossless with all devices on wifi (10 devices, 6 rooms).   It would work fine if I wired one speaker which caused most devices (except my Roam and Move) to switch to sonosnet.

Fast forward to today….   Everything is working normally again Sonosnet or wifi….   BUT, I no longer see the Lossless icon on any tracks…. Did Sonos disable lossless?  

I still see lossless icon on most tracks, so I assume not.

I suspect some AM tracks are not lossless and/or there is some kind of network negotiation for the stream with Apple to decide if the network connection is sufficient/stable for lossless.

Very interesting.   I’ve been listening to the same tracks that previously were showing as Lossless, and now they do not.   Perhaps it’s network negotiation/bandwidth logic.   Happy to at least have stability :-)

How is everyone playing Apple Music through their system? The Sonos app won’t let me add Apple Music as a music source. I’ve read some other Sonos users encountering the same problem after the update but wondering how users on this thread have been able to add apple as a music source?

It would be good if Sonos could provide a list of supported devices, I’ve been unable to get lossless to work with a Era100 stereo pair and Gen 2 Sub. Remove the Sub and lossless works, could be the gen 2 sub just isn't supported.