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wappinghighAvid Contributor I

posted in Components and Architectural

Zp 24/96

Ability to play 24bit/96 files (like the competition: slimdevices transporter)

995

7 years ago

Peter Mc

asked in Components and Architectural

Connect no longer bit-perfect?

It looks like the Connect is no longer bit-perfect. Here's my evidence: let's discuss this. First, I constructed a wav file of pink noise with amplitude ramping up from zero to digital max and back to zero. I play this through my Connect and record the SPDIF output from the coax output into my PC. The recording uses a Scarlett 8i6 audio interface set to use the Connect as master clock. I record into a DAW (Sonar) multiple times - all instances are identical. However, this recorded signal is not quite the same as the original wav file - it can be up to -21dB different. See https://www.dropbox.com/s/t8od479xo9hi5el/connect_diff.PNG?dl=1 Note the expanded scale on the difference (third) track. It looks like the difference gets larger when the signal is larger. To confirm this, I import the original and difference files into Matlab and plot the raw data (difference vs original). There is clearly audio compression happening here. See https://www.dropbox.com/s/p1yq6wcqafvnhaj/d

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5 years ago

Andy BSonos Staff

posted in Components and Architectural

Using a Turntable with Sonos

Thinking about getting a turntable setup with your Sonos system and wondering where to start? We've got you covered.If you're looking for a quick overview before you dive into the details below, check out the info we have over on our blog. Before getting started, we need to ask a simple question— Does my turntable need a phono preamp?Although some turntables have a built-in phono preamp, most of them don’t. Turntables output their signal at phono level, which is a low, quiet signal rated in millivolts. A phono preamp converts the audio output to line level, which is a louder signal rated in volts. If your turntable does not have a built-in phono preamp, you’ll need to place one between the turntable and Sonos player.We don’t recommend any phono preamp in particular, but we’ve heard great things about the Music Hall Mini, U-Turn Pluto, and Bellari Rolls VP 29.Your audio receiver may have a phono input, which means you can wire the turntable directly to the receiver. To pass the analog s

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2 years ago

Antoine Bell-BottomsContributor I

posted in Components and Architectural

Line-In Latency/Delay Disable PLAY:5

Hey Sonos Engineers! I know this has been touched upon. I previously submitted this request to support and they encouraged me to share here to keep the conversation going. Is there any chance we could implement a soft switch for line-in audio to bypass the computer for "delay disable" functionality. I understand and appreciate the reason for the delay. However, I'm running turntables through a mixer and into the line-in of the PLAY:5. Can't teach my son to mix records with that delay, and since we're set-up in a communal space, my wife is not too keen on bringing out the old mix monitors. Can you dig it? Can we figure out a way to manually disable the delay on an individual speaker basis? Otherwise love the gear! Thanks! Here's quote from customer support. Hope it isn't too heavy handed or out of school to post: "I'm not on the development team, but I personally think that it wouldn't be too hard to implement some kind of soft switch to bypass the computer

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2 years ago

alecfContributor I

posted in Components and Architectural

Why is Connect more expensive than Play?

I just got my first pair of Sonos units - two Play:3's for the kitchen and bedroom and I absolutely love them. I'm not a huge audiophile, but the convenience and total plug 'n play nature of Sonos is what attracted me to it. Of course the next thing that occured to me was how to get this connected up to my stereo. What I don't understand is why the basic Connect is $349 while the Play:3 units are $299 each. I mean if anything it seems like a Connect is just a Play:3 without the speakers and amp? Why does it cost so much more for fewer features? Seems like the guts of the connect should be a $99 unit - I meant he appleTV is $99, and it does way more (At least in terms of technological capability - video/etc) than the connect. To be honest I've been drooling over Sonos for years - and I know the quality is very high, but the expense of the units has always put me off. It wasn't until the Play:3 that I felt like there was enough bang-for-the-buck to justify diving in... I'm proba

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6 years ago

PaperDandelionContributor I

asked in Components and Architectural

Why can't I just use you like any other speakers?

So it's Boxing day, and I've just received a lovely big SONOS Play:1 speaker for Christmas. I set the speakers up and try to find them on my system. Nothing. I do some research, trying to figure out why I can only play through SONOS app and verified programmes approved through the SONOS app. Why something which clearly cost more than a few pretty pennies is essentially useless for anything other than playing music. No live sound, no video sync, nothing but music through SONOS. So the decrepit old speakers I have had since 2000 are essentially doing a better job than the basic model of SONOS. Not only this but my cheap shower bluetooth speaker I bought for my boyfriend (£5.99) can do what this supposedly amazing modern and high quality technology cannot. Which is play ANY sound off of my computer or phone that I want it to. How is this a complicated concept and why, after literally years and years of community comments and wailings and clearly strong customer dissatisfaction hav

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6 years ago

lewiscHeadliner I

posted in Components and Architectural

Sonos contributing to electronic waste

Sonos have recently started a trade in promotion in the UK with partnered retailers where you can trade in a Connect or Connect:AMP and receive a 'specified' discount off of a new Sonos AMP. They then modified the trade in promotion to be where you can trade in any Connect, Connect: AMP or (old gen) Play:5 for 30% any new Sonos product. I get that they are trying to sell more +/ new products but then contributing a massive amount to electrical waste. In their T&C's that they send to retailers they give a £15 credit (recycling fee) for the disposal of the old product. The old product is to strictly not be used or re-registered again or the retailer will be punished or loose their partnership. I think it's disgusting that Sonos are playing a huge role in generating unnecessary waste. All these units are perfectly fine and working but are to be disposed of for no reason other than that Sonos want to make money. Yes Sonos are giving a £15 credit for recycling but retailers won't and a

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3 years ago

Sonos IdeasSonos Employee

posted in Components and Architectural

One SUB for Two Rooms

Customer suggested adding the ability to bond a SUB with 2 different Sonos devices.

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2 years ago

SOCalisticRenowned Enthusiast I

posted in Components and Architectural

Who pre-ordered the new Sonos AMP and what are your plans for it?

I'm a little surprised pre-orders opened up and nobody is taking about it :-) Delivery by Dec 3rd according to Sonos which is awesome. I'm currently using a Beam and two Sonos Ones for rears and two stereo HomePods for music in the living room and bedroom as well as smart speakers for Homekit etc. I was planning on buying a Sonos sub tomorrow since they will be on sale for $599. I'm not sure if I will do that now since I am getting the Amp so soon and can use any sub so there seems to be little advantage to the Sonos sub. The Elacs are on sale right now so I could get tower speakers and sub from them for $669 from Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07B4WFWZF/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DL7XWBZ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1 I will continue to use the Sonos Ones as rears. Any thoughts on any of that? Any advantage to buying a Sonos sub for the app? I can't think of one. What are other peoples pla

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4 years ago

Ivan JeremicContributor I

posted in Components and Architectural

We need Audiophile Edition version of Port

First of I want to say that I have been using Sonos products since 2009. Besides Sonos, I had a lot of gear but none of it could match Sonos's ease of use and sound quality (for the price). I have to come clean and say that I am used to using Sonos everywhere and I love it. As an audiophile, I was looking to replace my aging Sonos Connect with Port and realized from all the reviews that it does not have a better digital output. This was a show stopper for me and it is a show stopper for all audiophiles out there. You are missing a very important niche of the market. It is taken by Raspberry Pie implementations and Bluesound and Aurelia, not because they have better software or support for services, but because they have a better digital output. That is it. Nothing else. Everyone I have talked to said they like Sonos but the digital output is jittery. I have tried a lot of solutions and even they sound better than Connect over coax they are all not easy to use, do not have support for t

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1 year ago

svleukenAvid Contributor I

asked in Components and Architectural

Sonos Port: Wired connection but still music is interrupted

I'm using a sonos port which is connected to my recordplayer. The Port is connected via a LAN cable to my router (Sonosnet channel 1) and the music has been set to compressed...and is played via multiple One'sStill I'm losing audio; The music sometimes is not played for 10-20 seconds before it starts playing again.Also the sonos s2 app (on my Iphone) states that it can't connect to SonosAny idea how to resolve this? Eventhough sonos is wired, can it have something to do with my wifi?

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2 years ago

Adam BrownContributor I

posted in Components and Architectural

Can the Amp and Connect be told to output mono rather than stereo? Using with mono ceiling speakers in bathroom and kitchen.

Single ceiling speakers (already bought) being used in the bathroom and kitchen. I need to sum the stereo signal for those, as I listen to a lot of soul which is 'dual mono' i.e. drums on left, everything else on right. Can the output be set to mono?

4 years ago

Peter Mc

posted in Components and Architectural

Amp freq response: Sonos vs Peachtree

There have been questions about the high frequency response of the Sonos Amp. User [b]hodgeal[/b] posted a very interesting plot showing the frequency response of the Sonos Amp using the software REW. It didn't show excessive high frequencies in that single test. I had the opportunity to compare the Sonos amp to my Peachtree amp using the same software (which is very useful and easy to use - thanks hodgeal), and this provides a comparative test of the Sonos Amp frequency response. The Peachtree Nova 125 SE amp is well-respected in the audio community. It is a class D digital amp, same as the Sonos Amp, but as far as I can tell uses different chips. The test uses Duntech Marquis speakers and a Studio Projects C1 microphone. The mic is setup on-axis at a distance of 120cm, which is pretty standard. But none of the details should matter because this is a comparison under identical conditions - I simply swapped amps and repeated the test. And the results? [img]9ff086c4-1880-4d

4 years ago

laconicEnthusiast I

posted in Components and Architectural

Sonos Roam does not work with Sonos S1 App

Just received my Roam today. Heads up for everyone as it’s not made clear anywhere prior to purchase that it’s only compatible with the new version of the app. This means if you have “legacy” Sonos products as part of your set up and use the S1 app to control them you won’t be able to see your Roam as part of your existing Sonos network. You have to download the new version of the app and then set up a new Sonos system to add the Roam to it. Then you have to add all your music services, any favourites etc etc again to the new app to be able to access them on your Roam. Pretty s*it experience to be honest, and annoying it’s not made clearer. By having “old” products Sonos doesn’t want me to have in my network I’m effectively left with a bog standard stand alone portable speaker. Struggling to see the benefit of it over a JBL Bluetooth speaker at the moment to be honest (build quality and sound quality aside obviously 😆). Anyway heads up for those of you still mulling over the purch

1 year ago

CaptainLeonidas_SonosContributor I

posted in Components and Architectural

When will Sonos put additional security measures in place?

Today a read an article (https://www.ncsc.nl/actueel/nieuwsberichten/iot-botnets-veroorzakers-nieuwste-ddos-aanvallen.html for those able to read dutch) in which the dutch Nationaal Cyber Security Center (NCSC) is taken steps to track down security issue's of home used Internet of things devices. So my question is wether Sonos will step up to the plate. Far as I know the only counter-measure in getting access to any Sonos product is the locally used WiFi SSID-name / password.

5 years ago

pciavContributor I

posted in Components and Architectural

Would You Buy an Ampless w/Digital Out "Zone Player Pro"

This topic has been beat to death on this forum. I am hoping this thread generates enough interest to at least peak the interest of the money makers at Sonos and hopefully this or a version of it is put into production. [b]A "Zone Player Pro" would be Ampless and have One (1) Coax and One (1) Optical Digital Outputs in a standard 17" Audio/HT component case.[/b] Forget any and all other requests, for now, such as rackmount, color, additional features, or a Price Reduction. Lets assume it will cost the same as the current Zone player $499, anything less would be a bonus. [b]Simply put, do you want and would you purchase a "Zone Player Pro"[/b].

17 years ago

TangoMeAvid Contributor I

posted in Components and Architectural

Dealing with HDMI ARC issues on Amp and input choices

I have an Amp hooked up to our living room TV in our house. (I also have a home theater setup using Sonos in our barn/guest house with the big screen TV.) I’m really fed up with the Amp, after any blackout or power flicker, losing all settings. I’ve been using regular stereo audio input pulled from an HDMI switcher to feed the Amp. Whenever we get a power flicker, my Sonos devices lose their groupings and settings. (Which, really, is pretty sad considering that pretty much any device, in 2021, can save such settings in non-volatile RAM - except the high priced Sonos!)Every time we start up the TV and there’s been a power flicker (which we often don’t know has happened), we get silence. So, instead of using my IR all-in-one remote, I have to pull out my phone and run the Sonos controller and change the Amp input BACK to “Line In,” where I always leave it. What’s amazing (and sad) is that this system is on a UPS. Everything on that UPS keeps behaving normally during an outage or power fl

2 years ago

Matthias_1Contributor I

posted in Components and Architectural

Sonos Connect is missing digital audio input

Why doesn't the Sonos Connect support digital input so that you can use it to attach e.g. Play-3 speakers and the SUB to a TV? Every modern TV utilizes HDMI and Optical Output and you can find less and less dual RCA cable output. Yes, the Sonos Connect has a simple mini jack to dual RCA which I could use but I really don't want to try to watch movies that way. I am willing put put the money down for a good solution but it appears that there is none. I fear I have to take back the SUB and the connect. Do you know of any solution to this? Thanks!

5 years ago

User567756Contributor I

posted in Components and Architectural

Please make a sonos multi zone amp!

I really like my sonos equipment. However, my whole house was wired for speakers in every room (ceiling, walls, patio) with the wiring centralized in a wiring closet/built in audio rack. Instead of purchasing a separate zone amp for every room/speaker pair, I would much rather buy one or two multi zone amps from Sonos. Any chance there is a multi zone amp on the horizon? Please, please, please!!!!

6 years ago

Niels TradsfeldtContributor I

posted in Components and Architectural

Sonos App for Apple TV 4

Just got the new Apple TV, and the possibility for apps are fantastic. I can see my TV moving towards a hone center. My question is, if anyone else feels the urge for a Sonos app for Apple TV? I would love one!

4 years ago

Ryan SRetired Sonos Staff

posted in Components and Architectural

Setup, Install, and Getting the most from Sonos Amp

Welcome! Here you can find tips and tricks, how to get started, and many answers to the questions you might have about how to use the Sonos Amp. For the basic details, check out our [url=https://en.community.sonos.com/announcements-228985/introducing-sonos-amp-6812069/]introductory post on the Amp[/url] and our [url=https://www.sonos.com/support/en/sonos-user-guide/index.html#t=sonos-user-guide%2Famp%2Famp.htm]product guide[/url]. [img]52b8370f-24f7-4e4c-bbe4-58545db30ebc.jpg[/img] The Amp is a great solution for anyone with their own passive speakers that they'd like to bring into the Sonos world. It's for people who are designing a home and want to install speakers in walls or ceilings. Use the Amp with your TV, or to bring sound outside. There are a dizzying amount of options, and this thread should help ease your mind and help make some decisions, so let's get started. [h2]What is Amp?[/h2] Sonos Amp is an amplifier for passive speakers, bringing the Sonos experience to y

3 years ago

nbnverbContributor I

asked in Components and Architectural

Will 2 play 5's Work with playbar? Or did I make a mistake?

I just bought into the Sonos Experience on New Years. The sales rep. said their was rumor of the playbar..which led to my decision to buy (2) play 5's, in hopes that in the near future I could also use them for Hometheater experience. What I have read thus far concerns me. No mention of Play 5 combined with Playbar.?? Will they work, or did I make a mistake....??

7 years ago

SturkContributor III

posted in Components and Architectural

The Sonos SUB in white

7 years ago

rondocapAvid Contributor I

asked in Components and Architectural

Sonos Amp and High level input from Subwooder?

I have a Sonos Amp, and a Definitive Tech Sub Pro 800 that has both the mono RCA LFE option (What is connected now) and also has the option to connect via high level input. Real Subwoofers have this too. Can this work with the Sonos Amp? I searched but did not find an answer. So basically I’d connect my Def Tech sub to the left and right speaker channels of the amp, and then I would connect my 2 front speakers to the back of the sub. Will that work or do I have to keep using the LFE? It’s for music, so I figured using the High Level input may sound better as the sub would get the same signal as the speakers, right? Or am I mistaken? Thanks!

3 years ago

Jesper Frøkjær SkjærbækContributor I

posted in Components and Architectural

Connect:AMP digital input

To use the Connect:amp as a complete living room audio solution, it needs a digital input with its next hardware update. For example I would like to hookup my passive speakers to my TV, without having to manually turn on my receiver. In that case I would need digital input in the connect:AMP for easy setup, and then I wouldnt need a receiver at all and be able to stream music through the connect:amp without having to turn on the TV. It could be done just with a fiber optic input port, or even better with hdmi pass through. Of course with support for digital audio content like DTS. (I know that the playbar will do the job, but want to use my existing speakers)

7 years ago

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