Sonos Bluetooth Connect
I would like to see a Sonos product similar to the Sonos Connect/ZP90 but instead of connecting to an amplifier it has a Bluetooth connection supporting A2DP/ APT X. You could then stream music from your iPod/iPhone, android phone or any device with Bluetooth similar to the way the iPod dock works, or the line in on the Connect, but the connection is made via Bluetooth rather than a wire In addition it should support transmitting music via Bluetooth so that a Bluetooth speaker or headphones could be used and it would work like a traditional zone player transmitting the music to the device attached to the zone via Bluetooth. I think this one device would meet the needs of some other requests here for sonos headphones, portable speakers and being able to play music directly from a PC/iPad etc as this could all be done over Bluetooth and using A2DP/APT X would give a good quality sound.
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Since I have given it some time, I have learned to work around not having BT on Sonos and it has worked pretty good. I was able to find the music streaming site I like in the app and now I do not miss BT as much.
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Or... AirPlay for that matter. I've now resolved to "AirSonos" on my Mac a free app that uses Sonos' lan connection somehow. It works, running from the Unix Terminal, with obvious delays. I output my iPhone's sound from djay 2 to an AirPlay pseudo-device AirSonos creates and can then finally stream from anywhere in the house, via AirPlay/wifi/Mac/AirSonos/wifi/Bridge/players. No wonder it lags a bit. But it works!
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Because your iphone or device has to be available to play the music. SONOS is designed so that you can set and forget. Meaning - you can leave the house with your phone, and it'll still play music from your itunes library, pandora, etc.
- Bluetooth into Sonos (i.e. from iPhone to Sonos): there are the Sonos apps for iOS, Android etc which already do this via Wifi at better quality and lower power consumption;
- Bluetooth out of Sonos: I would love Sonos headphones, a portable battery Sonos etc but I do not think that Bluetooth is the answer: the slightly different time delay between a Wifi connection and a Bluetooth connection means that the devices would always be slightly out of sync which rather defeats the object (and the beauty) of Sonos. Also, from Sonos' point of view, it is not going to cannibalise its own speaker market by letting customers buy just one bridge for USD 50 and then interface with third party Bluetooth products.
thank you Tony...this is a very important point that SONOS seems to be ignoring OR somehow is unable to understand...in both cases, this is a major concern to me as I've spent a bunch of dollars on a Play5 and I'm now forced to go and buy a completed different Speaker to stream in a way that works with my apps and services. Massive fail SONOS...listen to your customers.
Then why allow an audio aux input? If you disconnect it and leave the house, the audio will stop!!! Or...maybe, just maybe, it would be better to add a feature that would make customers happy...customers that have spent thousands on sonos hardware...but can't play an audible book (or any unsupported audio/video service only available as an app on their phone). Defending Sonos for not including a useful feature (obviously a desired feature because literally every Bluetooth speaker and car audio system supports it!), is just ridiculous fanboyism. I spent 2 grand on wireless speakers and I can't listen to a bunch of stuff I want to via my phone. A problem that could easily be solved with a Bluetooth receiver built in to each speaker. It's like a $5 chip. There's no excuse in 2015 to not include this.
It will work with most headset and bluetooth speakers with paus-,play- ffw-, rew- and volume- buttons.
A connect feature to stream from players and phones would be less usefull.
Speak for yourself. I would find it exceedingly useful to be able to output Bluetooth audio to my entire house-wide sonos system via the connect (or soundbar) controllers. I would ALSO find it useful to be able to connect directly to each speaker if a central/bridge connection is not available because it's too far away for Bluetooth.
I agree too, lack of AirPlay and lack of blue tooth is a major product flaw in Sonos speakers!
Why not a play 1 then, that is cheaper than a 5.
And I can't see a USD 1 billion corporation go under in a hurry, it's business model and cash flows will always be of interest and will only taper down if mismanaged. What is more likely is a buy out, but in that case, there is just as much chance of new management taking it to a better place, as to a worse one.
And there isn't any guarantee that I will see tomorrow either.
And I can't see a USD 1 billion corporation go under in a hurry, it's business model and cash flows will always be of interest and will only taper down if mismanaged. What is more likely is a buy out, but in that case, there is just as much chance of new management taking it to a better place, as to a worse one.
And there isn't any guarantee that I will see tomorrow either.
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Having flashbacks of Slimdevices (Logitech) and Simple Audio (Corsair) 😉
Nonsense, if Sonos went under the hardware wouldn't even notice, it would just carry on regardless. Did squeezeboxes stop working when Logitech pulled the plug? No, there's still people using them now.
As a new SONOS play:5 owner let me say that I chose the SONOS player because it does not rely on bluetooth. Our old speaker was a bluetooth enabled speaker. I always got yelled at by the GF because I would start playing music from my phone, walk out to the backyard and bluetooth speaker would disconnect because I went out of range. Same issue when I tried going the airplay route, but to a lesser extent because its WIFI based.
With that said, I would really like to see SONOS seriously consider more flexibility with outside apps. I really liked the Spotify Connect feature and I could see a better integration with Chromecast being an option (even though all my devices in the house are Apple).
With that said, I would really like to see SONOS seriously consider more flexibility with outside apps. I really liked the Spotify Connect feature and I could see a better integration with Chromecast being an option (even though all my devices in the house are Apple).
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+1 chromecast native. Although I already have with dongle attached to my play:5. As you have a play:5 it is a good addition to give you full chromecast for like $40
I'm considering using the Chromecast audio dongle (right now I am using an apple express with airplay). Can I play music using the dongle without having to go into the SONOS app and choosing line in? Right now the only way I see it working is first opening up the SONOS app, selecting line in and from there going to the app of choice to use chromecast.
You can set the line in to auto select when it detects a signal. This is how I have my turntable set up.
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Sadly, SONOS appear to ignore critical feedback of this shortcoming. I am gearing up my whole house with 5 x Play 1's, 2 x Play 5's 1 x ZP90 and 1 ZP120. Sadly, the 4 teenage males in the family refuse to use the system as they want a simple bluetooth output facility for their iPhones. They are not interested in Spotify accounts or downloading their music to a local NAS to be indexed by SONOS. The limit of their ability to play music it rather limited (like their personal hygiene).
What's so difficult for a Gen 3 version where each Sonos Speaker has a Bluetooth TxRx system.
What's so difficult for a Gen 3 version where each Sonos Speaker has a Bluetooth TxRx system.
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What's so difficult for a Gen 3 version where each Sonos Speaker has a Bluetooth TxRx system.
Really?
If I were you I'd provide each of them with a streaming music service account of their choice and then tell them they are on their own - They can use their own money to buy the exact speaker of their choice.
When I was a teenager I had a cassette radio - AM/LW/FM radio and a tape cassette player and that was it. I know times they move on but I really find all this "my kids won't, my kids refuse" stuff to be rather perplexing.
Having flashbacks of Slimdevices (Logitech) and Simple Audio (Corsair) ;)
Agree.... I have logitech Squeezebox duet/radio/boom.... now Sonos 5 , Playbar, Play 3 X 2. Seems like others like Bose making more versatile products (i.e. w BT). I still use boom and radio because the TineIn app works much better on the old abandoned Squeezebox platform compared to Sonos. To be fair Sonos is more more stable than Squeezebox.
Then Sonos add line in out to play1 play3 and a new Chromecast connect
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Line in you mean. We don't know their product development cycle. I would predict play:3 should be ending replacement.
I simply want to use my Bose QuietComfort 35 headphones with my music system. What's the problem?? Why is this not possible??
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This thread has nothing to do with headphones. This thread is asking for Sonos to be able to play Bluetooth receiving (such as your phone sending out Bluetooth and sonos playing Bluetooth like your headphones do).
Listening to Sonos music via your headphones would required Sonos OUTPUTTING Bluetooth like your phone. Absolutely different issue and nothing to do with this thread. And it isn't something Sonos supports - so you'll need to listen to your headphones form a Bluetooth device like your phone. Sonos has no Bluetooth chip and not even Bluetooth chipped speakers sendsaudio out to your headphones.
Listening to Sonos music via your headphones would required Sonos OUTPUTTING Bluetooth like your phone. Absolutely different issue and nothing to do with this thread. And it isn't something Sonos supports - so you'll need to listen to your headphones form a Bluetooth device like your phone. Sonos has no Bluetooth chip and not even Bluetooth chipped speakers sendsaudio out to your headphones.
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Another use case is a Spa with built-in Bluetooth speakers. I have 9 Sonos zones at home & am evangelical about Sonos, but one can't order a Spa with Sonos installed. Instead I have Bluetooth speakers in the tub and Sonos on my deck. I wish I could find a way to synchronize the two. Love to hear any ideas, but it sounds like this is still not possible.
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Only output really these days is the connect. Then a cheap.l Bluetooth transmitter.
Interesting discussion. I would have thought the use case for Bluetooth in would be fairly obvious. In common areas like living rooms there is a great case for Sonos because you can spread music across these areas with perfect sync. In bedrooms the use case is more "play my music on these nice ceiling speakers while i'm in the shower". A Connect Amp is an expensive solution (and probably not bathroom friendly) since you are still up for the speakers, as opposed to just buying speakers with Bluetooth 4.0 built in.
The 'killer app" here is the Amazon Echo - I would rather have an Echo Dot outputting to decent speakers than the crappy Echo. Sonos doesn't make this cheap or easy. As it is, the Dot (also ceiling installed) can use either AUX out or bluetooth to connect to the same speakers. Quality-wise is not the same I know but good enough, let's you play music to your speakers through the Echo, dead cheap, and flexible in that the bluetooth allows any other bluettoth device to connect and play (not locked to the Echo). I don't tend to move around a lot when listening to music, and am happy to leave my phone on my bedside locker when I'm in the shower!
I bought a Sonos One for the kitchen and have a Sonos Connect in my living room which work well for those areas so i could have either Amazon or Google solutions (in time), and I'm happy with that but a Sonos One in each room is not a viable alternative as it is still locking me in to a less flexible solution all round.
I have a 5-bedroom house so there is a market here. I bet I know which option my teenage kids will jump at...
The 'killer app" here is the Amazon Echo - I would rather have an Echo Dot outputting to decent speakers than the crappy Echo. Sonos doesn't make this cheap or easy. As it is, the Dot (also ceiling installed) can use either AUX out or bluetooth to connect to the same speakers. Quality-wise is not the same I know but good enough, let's you play music to your speakers through the Echo, dead cheap, and flexible in that the bluetooth allows any other bluettoth device to connect and play (not locked to the Echo). I don't tend to move around a lot when listening to music, and am happy to leave my phone on my bedside locker when I'm in the shower!
I bought a Sonos One for the kitchen and have a Sonos Connect in my living room which work well for those areas so i could have either Amazon or Google solutions (in time), and I'm happy with that but a Sonos One in each room is not a viable alternative as it is still locking me in to a less flexible solution all round.
I have a 5-bedroom house so there is a market here. I bet I know which option my teenage kids will jump at...
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