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Sonos Port 12V Trigger

  • 30 October 2019
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Hi there - does anybody know how the 12V trigger logic works on the Port i.e. once it outputs audio trigger on - when no audio trigger off - any delays etc.

Kind regards, Emil

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Best answer by buzz 4 December 2019, 04:12

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Thanks for replying! Bummer; I probably wouldn’t have bought mine (and traded my old Connect in) if I had known it wasn’t going to work with my receiver.

Yes, thanks.  I saw that.  I now think it is working.  The blue LED around the main power button apparently stays lit in the standby mode.  I hear it clicking off after 2 minutes.  Thanks!

I made a simple device using ESP32 to control my Amp from the 12v trigger on the Sonos Port.
 

https://hackaday.io/project/176520-esp32-sonos-port-12v-trigger-control-amp

When I tested the port, after the music stops playing the 12v trigger turns off exactly 2 minutes later

Hi all, I built the following box with 6 inputs for the 12v output from the Sonos and one output to the amp, using diodes inside to protect the Sonos.  My amp had signal detect, i.e. it would turn on when it detected audio on an input but I found often watching TV the amp would turn off because the audio was too low and I also found the amp slow to turn on especially for music tracks with quiet starts. 
With the 12v input it now works perfectly and turns on within seconds.  My distribution amp is the Rotel RMB-1512

 

 

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Yes if your amp has a 12v trigger input it will do this but…… if your amp is like my Denon amp and does NOT have this input then the device I mention above will do the trick. Effectively you leave the amp switched on the and the trigger effectively switches on the mains supply. When you stop the music the relay opens after 2 mins and switches of the mains supply and thereby the amp. Works perfectly for me  

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I intend to use one of these to power my amp on/off using the 12V trigger from the port. 
 

AUDIOPHONICS Trigger 12V 230V Slave Power Supply Device

 

Assume this will work and the amp will power off 2 mins after music stops as per reply above?

Anybody been able to control prower on of Onkyo amplifiers with the Port 12v trigger?  Using a Xantech connection block has not worked for me.  I would appreciate any tips. thanks.

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My NAD C326BEE Stereo Integrated Amplifier has a “12V trigger out,” described in the manual as follows,

+12V TRIGGER OUT: The +12V TRIGGER OUT is used for controlling
external equipment that is equipped with a +12V trigger input. This
output will be 12V when the C 326BEE is ON and 0V when the unit is
either OFF.

Am I right in assuming that the Port’s 12V trigger will not control this amp because the amp has only a “trigger out”?

Thanks.

I just purchased a Port and connected it to Rotel RB1572 amplifier.  I have tried both stereo and mono cables, the trigger mode on the amp is “On”, and the cable is plugged into the “in” port on the amp.  The power switch for the amp is “On”.  The trigger from the Port does not turn off the amp as it should after 2 minutes.  Any suggestions? 

Same question -- but with Marantz (NR1607). Any chance I can use the 12v trigger with it?

I just purchased a Port and connected it to Rotel RB1572 amplifier.  I have tried both stereo and mono cables, the trigger mode on the amp is “On”, and the cable is plugged into the “in” port on the amp.  The power switch for the amp is “On”.  The trigger from the Port does not turn off the amp as it should after 2 minutes.  Any suggestions? 

Does this assist at all?…

http://rotel.com/faq/what-purpose-12-volt-trigger-switch

 

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This is an interesting thread. If I understand this right, the trigger is generally used to power on an amp since the receiver‘s trigger is usually an out. 
 

If that’s the case, is it expected that the Connect/Port can be connected directly to the amp in lieu of a pre-amp?

 

Might be able to save me a bunch of money, because I’ve only intended the Sonos to be my sole input. Although… that will put more emphasis on the built-in DAC since my original plan was to use the Sonos as a transport. 

A 12V trigger output is power limited and used strictly for control.

PORT will accept line level audio input. By this I mean a Tuner, Cassette Deck, CD player, etc., not direct magnetic Phono cartridge output. A magnetic Phono Cartridge would need some sort of pre-amp to bring its output up to line level.

Yes, PORT can be used for transport to other SONOS units and as input to an amplifier that accepts line level analog input or digital audio input.

 

Hi all, I built the following box with 6 inputs for the 12v output from the Sonos and one output to the amp, using diodes inside to protect the Sonos.  My amp had signal detect, i.e. it would turn on when it detected audio on an input but I found often watching TV the amp would turn off because the audio was too low and I also found the amp slow to turn on especially for music tracks with quiet starts. 
With the 12v input it now works perfectly and turns on within seconds.  My distribution amp is the Rotel RMB-1512

 

 

This is great. I have the same challenge with a 6-zone set-up on the Rotel RMB-1512, but couldn’t find any kind of hub for the triggers coming off the Ports. Seems that a commercial solution doesn’t exist. Does your box also limit the output voltage going to your amp when you have multiple Ports sending a trigger simultaneously? 

ElGuapo34,

No, the 12V trigger on the NR1607 is an output that can be used to control other devices connected to the receiver.

 

Jacfucious,

I don’t know which ONKYO you have. Typically, receivers will not respond to a 12V trigger. Amplifiers may respond to a 12V trigger input from PORT.

I intend to use one of these to power my amp on/off using the 12V trigger from the port. 
 

AUDIOPHONICS Trigger 12V 230V Slave Power Supply Device

 

Assume this will work and the amp will power off 2 mins after music stops as per reply above?

Hi, I’ve ordered this ‘AUDIOPHONICS Trigger 12V 230V Slave Power Supply Device’, but only now (when already received the device) I’ve noticed, that my Marantz uses 2 pins AC IN cable and socked (C17/C18). While AUDIOPHONICS devices comes with C13/C14 plugs. I was trying to connect some other 3pins cable to AUDIOPHONICS and then connect it to Marantz, but seems no power comes in via it… Maybe there is some solution for this? Thanks.

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A 12V trigger output is power limited and used strictly for control.

PORT will accept line level audio input. By this I mean a Tuner, Cassette Deck, CD player, etc., not direct magnetic Phono cartridge output. A magnetic Phono Cartridge would need some sort of pre-amp to bring its output up to line level.

Yes, PORT can be used for transport to other SONOS and as input to an amplifier that accepts line level analog input or digital audio input.

 Thanks buzz, so sounds like I can use the port to turn my amp on and save some money by skipping the pre-amp since the port is going to be the only source device (no phono, cd, or anything else for me!)

 

can always add a pre-amp later if I decide to hook more stuff up, or get a better dac, or start playing with tubes. 

I just purchased a Port and connected it to Rotel RB1572 amplifier.  I have tried both stereo and mono cables, the trigger mode on the amp is “On”, and the cable is plugged into the “in” port on the amp.  The power switch for the amp is “On”.  The trigger from the Port does not turn off the amp as it should after 2 minutes.  Any suggestions? 

Did you end up getting this to work? Trying to do the same with my Rotel RA-12 and having no luck. 

I intend to use one of these to power my amp on/off using the 12V trigger from the port. 
 

AUDIOPHONICS Trigger 12V 230V Slave Power Supply Device

 

Assume this will work and the amp will power off 2 mins after music stops as per reply above?

 

Malkie52, did you purchase the Audiophonics trigger? If so, did it work and how long did it take to receive the item?

The RA-12 does not support being controlled by a 12V trigger. The RA-12’s trigger output could be used to control external equipment.

I want to connect (3) PORTs to a 6-channel power amplifier that has only one 12V trigger input. Can I parallel all three triggers to this one trigger input? Do I have to use diode isolation?

Yes if your amp has a 12v trigger input it will do this but…… if your amp is like my Denon amp and does NOT have this input then the device I mention above will do the trick. Effectively you leave the amp switched on the and the trigger effectively switches on the mains supply. When you stop the music the relay opens after 2 mins and switches of the mains supply and thereby the amp. Works perfectly for me  

So if I used the Audiophonics 12v device, the only way my AVR would turn on is from the use of the port, so basically my Apple TV wouldn’t be able to turn it on any longer like it currently does. 

I want to connect (3) PORTs to a 6-channel power amplifier that has only one 12V trigger input. Can I parallel all three triggers to this one trigger input? Do I have to use diode isolation?

Hi Roy, I had the same question.  I’ve read on other home audio forums that you should include a diode on the positive lead in case the other SONOS don’t like voltage being fed back into them (my non tech explanation), suggested something like the 1N4001 diode.

Hi all, I built the following box with 6 inputs for the 12v output from the Sonos and one output to the amp, using diodes inside to protect the Sonos.  My amp had signal detect, i.e. it would turn on when it detected audio on an input but I found often watching TV the amp would turn off because the audio was too low and I also found the amp slow to turn on especially for music tracks with quiet starts. 
With the 12v input it now works perfectly and turns on within seconds.  My distribution amp is the Rotel RMB-1512

 

 

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