Sonos Bluetooth Connect
I would like to see a Sonos product similar to the Sonos Connect/ZP90 but instead of connecting to an amplifier it has a Bluetooth connection supporting A2DP/ APT X. You could then stream music from your iPod/iPhone, android phone or any device with Bluetooth similar to the way the iPod dock works, or the line in on the Connect, but the connection is made via Bluetooth rather than a wire In addition it should support transmitting music via Bluetooth so that a Bluetooth speaker or headphones could be used and it would work like a traditional zone player transmitting the music to the device attached to the zone via Bluetooth. I think this one device would meet the needs of some other requests here for sonos headphones, portable speakers and being able to play music directly from a PC/iPad etc as this could all be done over Bluetooth and using A2DP/APT X would give a good quality sound.
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I have SONOS components in most areas of my house and use it daily for music, radio, and podcasts. But there are many occasions when I need to shut down zones so as not to disturb others. What I need is for the iPhone (or Android) client to not only act as a controller but as a player also. In this way I could continue to listen via my iPhone and bluetooth headset. Not concerned about playing on the pc as I have normal SONOS devices for this but have no way to listen in private while moving around the house.
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Perhaps add to the Bridge?
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It seems that sonos has some prinicples against bluetooth in general. When I first started with this I thought this can fly long time but now I get the feeling that this is not designed to get the maximum joy. As people writing most logical enhamcement beeing entirely ignorted after two years time I feel not with the right technology anymore. It is not a secret bluetooth is standard for audio communication. Head-set, telephone, sound speaker,etc, any more that even my grandfather listens to music via bluetooth in the car. There is no space for ignorance on such estsblished way sending audio into a speaker. I found it way too much money for sonos not building such importance into there ecosystem. This has been said after finding out that their smart apps are old not improved and limited in the sence of sending audio from devices, audible is not supoorted and anyway the way it is done to us sonos app instead of the actual app ie. spotify is rsther stupid and shows another company that looks customers in their own legacy world. All i have been reading on this useful feedback is , ah "yes, sonos has already everything in the app what you need" this is sucks and not true! Why would people otherwise ask for it??? This shows a lazy development cycle and just csshing in without further development... I hope I'm wrong because I of course liked the inital idea but as bluetooth speakers are getting more common I might need to rethink this becaus I have a little differnt understanding of wireless speakers... The workaround with apples airport is only for apple devices and on top uses cable so bad quality. Bluetooth should be right in the sonos connect device point why would this be delayed? Really shitty argument and not true! It's the same as the legacy line in that which is 30 years old technology sending audio signal analog!!! Sorry for putting this out loud but I'm tired of this lazy comments from the sonos support;)
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- Bluetooth into Sonos (i.e. from iPhone to Sonos): there are the Sonos apps for iOS, Android etc which already do this via Wifi at better quality and lower power consumption;
- Bluetooth out of Sonos: I would love Sonos headphones, a portable battery Sonos etc but I do not think that Bluetooth is the answer: the slightly different time delay between a Wifi connection and a Bluetooth connection means that the devices would always be slightly out of sync which rather defeats the object (and the beauty) of Sonos. Also, from Sonos' point of view, it is not going to cannibalise its own speaker market by letting customers buy just one bridge for USD 50 and then interface with third party Bluetooth products.
Alex, your points are giving me the understanding thst your only concern is "not to canibalise". 1. You dont seem to understand why people wrting these comments. Your app does not allow us to use any random app to send the audio signal into your sonos system by default! Any solution of buying aditional hardware to find a workaround is a sign of weakness in sonos. Your ios,android app supports a few apps like spotify, itunes, etc BUT it is not the same user expirience since the sonos app has a completly user interface and limitation or is missing on functionalty that is in the actual app ie spotify. I dont know anyone who would prefare using the sonos app managing spotify than actually the realy spotify, thos counts for most othet apps.. It is not needed to have these apps inthere (unless sonos has some commercials around to benefit from this). Bluetooth in the same sense it currently has line-in on the sonos connect is really what is needed from a user!! 2. With the right commercials sonos would not have to worry. I would spend more on the connect when it becomes more inteligent and bluetooth is of course helping. When you talk about wifi then I like to remind that others use wifi to streem directoy from the device ie.youtube apple is using airplay,. Why is is not coming after such a long time then?? Please listen and think about this. Otherwise people will not buy such luxery speaker system in the future. Bluethooth speaker are already cheaper...
I've had the exact same want since setting up a basic Sonos system. I would love to see a small portable speaker (battery powered) that simply has dual-band functionality toggle with a hardware switch. Toggle to Bluetooth mode and it operates just as current Soundlink, Jambox, etc speakers operate, so that you can take it out of the home. But then, when you are AT home in the true Sonos environment, toggle the switch to Wi-Fi mode so that it can pair to your Sonos network but still operate via battery, allowing you to take it into smaller or less used rooms in the house or apt which do not make sense for whatever reason to add a dedicated Play1 or other AC powered true Sonos speaker.
I would buy one in a second. Best of both worlds and would prompt Sonos users who want a portable speaker to further buy into the Sonos ecosystem. Seems like an R&D no-brainer to me.
I would buy one in a second. Best of both worlds and would prompt Sonos users who want a portable speaker to further buy into the Sonos ecosystem. Seems like an R&D no-brainer to me.
I'd also believe that a bluetooth bridge should be built into the Sonos Connect (ZP 90) device. Critical functionality would be the ability to connect to multiple devices simultaneously and if possible play different music (or at least mute) to each bluetooth device. I would use this capability to stream much to bluetooth headphones and one of these: http://www.us.kohler.com/us/Moxie%22-Showerhead-+-Wireless-Speaker/content/CNT16200089.htm Thanks!
Every other wireless speaker on the market does bluetooth audio. Why not sonos?
This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Will sonos ever offer a Bluetooth option, and internal battery for the play 1 so yo can take it on the go? My play 1 would rock the beach..
Agree completely. If Sonos were to go under most of their hardware would become useless. For that reason the Play5 is the safest component to buy. Want a sub? Much safer to buy the Connect and a separate sub rather than the Sonos Sub which is severely restrictive even in the Sonus environs and worthless if Sonus go under. however, all being said, I am sure that in the event Sonus were to go kaput there would be many entrepreneurs who would quickly come up with mods to add a line in jack to the Play1 and Play3.
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Most expect Sonos will go the Google Casting route.
However, there are official and non-official methods to add Bluetooth and Airplay. It is fairly easy to add Bluetooth or Airplay if you have a Play:5 using the input and an Bluetooth adapter or Airport Express. There is also airsonos/sonoair program that enables Airplay for all Sonos speakers in your system.
However, there are official and non-official methods to add Bluetooth and Airplay. It is fairly easy to add Bluetooth or Airplay if you have a Play:5 using the input and an Bluetooth adapter or Airport Express. There is also airsonos/sonoair program that enables Airplay for all Sonos speakers in your system.
I regret buing sonos. I really thought the issue about not be able to stream podcasts from my phone was going to be solved. But it is not going to happen.
Today I have a expensive Sonos system but use a 30$ BT-speaker when I listen to podcasts.
Bluetooth streaming or wifi streaming would change it all.
Today I have a expensive Sonos system but use a 30$ BT-speaker when I listen to podcasts.
Bluetooth streaming or wifi streaming would change it all.
I have a Sonos 5 and I stream audio via bluetooth all the time. I just plugged a bluetooth adapter into the AUX port. Works pretty well.
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For those with an input Sonos like the Play:5 the auxiliary port allows for a lot of flexibility (adding Bluetooth, airplay etc). Although I rarely use it (ok never) I do have one of the new Google Chromecast Audio Dongles ($35) plugged into my Play:5.
For those unfamiliary and wonder why Sonos doesn't jump on Bluetooth or airplay ... they are fundamentally different than Sonos. Sonos for the most part has an architecture where your controller (like phone) is just a remote control. When you chose a radio station, local network song, or streaming service, the controller tells the player to go out and fetch it. So the song then goes directly from the source (such as Spotify) to the speaker. The controller never sees the song. This is an important part of the Sonos architecture because then you can turn your controller/phone off or lose wifi and your music will not stop. That is a key point in Sonos reliability.
Now with airplay and Bluetooth your song has to download the song and then send from the phone to Sonos. Any loss of connectivity or turning off the phone stops the music. It also sends the music over your home wifi instead of Sonosnet and therefore is also prone to breakups (yes I know people can use home wifi now for the sonos speakers to but that is rarely a good way to hook up sonos either).
Now - chromecast. It is not Bluetooth or Airplay. It is like Sonos. When you chose something in an app that is chromecast enabled, chromecast does what sonos does and tells the chromecast speaker to go out and fetch the music stream directly and leave the phone/device out of the equation.
So - chromecast audio is just like 30 days old. So you can't expect Sonos to have already come out with Chromecast compatibility. But the future as far as Sonos goes to me seems to be adding chromecast capability. Spotify did something similar last year in coming out with Spotify Connect. Spotify Connect does the same thing chromecast does/and Sonos but was proprietary to Spotify only. Sonos had the legitimate reason for not embrassing Spotify Connect because it would devote a lot of on speaker resources to a single companies product. With Chromecast Audio you have the same as Spotify Connect but much more universal to all apps. That's why I think Sonos, while they haven't said anything yet, may be looking hard at Chromecast Audio to solve the biggest issue they have currently and that really is allowing more flexibility of using other apps to play direct to their speakers.
In the meantime a Play:5, Connect, or Connect:Amp with a $35 Chromecast dongle adds the ability today (and allows to play to any Sonos speaker in your home).
For those unfamiliary and wonder why Sonos doesn't jump on Bluetooth or airplay ... they are fundamentally different than Sonos. Sonos for the most part has an architecture where your controller (like phone) is just a remote control. When you chose a radio station, local network song, or streaming service, the controller tells the player to go out and fetch it. So the song then goes directly from the source (such as Spotify) to the speaker. The controller never sees the song. This is an important part of the Sonos architecture because then you can turn your controller/phone off or lose wifi and your music will not stop. That is a key point in Sonos reliability.
Now with airplay and Bluetooth your song has to download the song and then send from the phone to Sonos. Any loss of connectivity or turning off the phone stops the music. It also sends the music over your home wifi instead of Sonosnet and therefore is also prone to breakups (yes I know people can use home wifi now for the sonos speakers to but that is rarely a good way to hook up sonos either).
Now - chromecast. It is not Bluetooth or Airplay. It is like Sonos. When you chose something in an app that is chromecast enabled, chromecast does what sonos does and tells the chromecast speaker to go out and fetch the music stream directly and leave the phone/device out of the equation.
So - chromecast audio is just like 30 days old. So you can't expect Sonos to have already come out with Chromecast compatibility. But the future as far as Sonos goes to me seems to be adding chromecast capability. Spotify did something similar last year in coming out with Spotify Connect. Spotify Connect does the same thing chromecast does/and Sonos but was proprietary to Spotify only. Sonos had the legitimate reason for not embrassing Spotify Connect because it would devote a lot of on speaker resources to a single companies product. With Chromecast Audio you have the same as Spotify Connect but much more universal to all apps. That's why I think Sonos, while they haven't said anything yet, may be looking hard at Chromecast Audio to solve the biggest issue they have currently and that really is allowing more flexibility of using other apps to play direct to their speakers.
In the meantime a Play:5, Connect, or Connect:Amp with a $35 Chromecast dongle adds the ability today (and allows to play to any Sonos speaker in your home).
From all accounts, I don't see bluetooth coming in Sonos kit; and if I had the environment you seem to have, I'd prefer to have my Sonos install kept away from it! Ask them to save up for some cheap/cheerful bluetooth speakers for the privacy of their rooms, and don't install Sonos there?
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Sonos is not putting Bluetooth hardware in their device. Both Bluetooth and AirPlay as well as chromecast can be added as j out into any of the 4 units you have with I out givin anyone ability to direct their iPhone output into Sonos. There was air Sonos program I haven't kept up With that acts as AirPlay server to all units (I haven't checked to see if they have working again on latest iOS version - as I frankly hate Bluetooth and AirPlay for their dropouts and poor audio quality. Chromecast Audio is only one I would think of since it pushes music direct from source like Sonos.
If you'd like the mobile controller to be a player as well, please vote for this idea:
https://ask.sonos.com/sonos/topics/ios_device_as_a_sonos_zone_play_sonos_music_on_a_iphone_ipod_or_i...
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There are two ideas in the orignal post:
- Bluetooth into Sonos (i.e. from iPhone to Sonos): there are the Sonos apps for iOS, Android etc which already do this via Wifi at better quality and lower power consumption;
- Bluetooth out of Sonos: I would love Sonos headphones, a portable battery Sonos etc but I do not think that Bluetooth is the answer: the slightly different time delay between a Wifi connection and a Bluetooth connection means that the devices would always be slightly out of sync which rather defeats the object (and the beauty) of Sonos. Also, from Sonos' point of view, it is not going to cannibalise its own speaker market by letting customers buy just one bridge for USD 50 and then interface with third party Bluetooth products.
From a competitive standpoint, Sonos has ceded an opportunity to compete in the portable bluetooth speaker market. Why not develop a portable bluetooth speaker which could compete with Bose, Sony, Jambox, etc? It is an "entry point" for many new consumers. Behavior being what it is, Bose will have an advantage when the owner of a Soundlink III decides to "move up". LOL it also aggravates me to have to purchase a Bose for my traveling/portable speaker needs.
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This is a really good idea!!!
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It cant be so difficult to integrate bloototh, as line-in is already build in..
As bluetooth is designed i don't think it is possible to make a router for it. I think the best way to go would be to make a simple "bluetooth play", that pairs to one device at a time, supporting A2DP and AVRCP profiles, preferebly the APT-X codec.
It will work with most headset and bluetooth speakers with paus-,play- ffw-, rew- and volume- buttons.
A connect feature to stream from players and phones would be less usefull.
It will work with most headset and bluetooth speakers with paus-,play- ffw-, rew- and volume- buttons.
A connect feature to stream from players and phones would be less usefull.
codename: "Sonos:Go" 🙂
I am very surprised Sonos does not support Bluetooth. I'm considering taking it back and getting a Bose system.
I agree! I am at a clients house and was stoked to see a speaker in the bathroom. Less stoked that I couldn't connect and play my own tunes to shower to. Even less stoked to listen to Spice Girls...
I have to admit that i was on the fense for BT for quite some time, but using Bluetooth with my Sonos changed my perception.
The limited range of 30ft or less between sender and receiver is painful. The music stream stops every time the sending device leaves that range. It may just be me, but i carry my phone always in my pocket even when its playing music. Every time i leave said range everything stops.
Answering a phone call, guess what? The music stops ...
If one still insists on Bluetooth, there are plenty of inexpensive apt-X compatible BT receivers that can be easily plugged into the line-in on a Play5 or Connect to allow BT streaming across all Sonos speakers if this is a must have.
http://www.amazon.com/Brightech-trade-Functionality-Non-Bluetooth-Simultaneously/dp/B00E3FHXYO
http://amzn.to/1zSV3sr
AirPlay maybe the better solution as it uses the WiFi connection and as such supports any range within the wifi coverage. Retrofitting works the same way as a BT receiver with starting price points that a similar to the BT dongles, even though Sonos recommends Airport Express.
http://amzn.to/1JiW05K
I like the idea of a inbuilt BT in a Boost/Bridge, but they are meant to be placed strategically around a house to build a solid mesh network and not necessarily within sight, with a BT adapter the flexibility would be voided and would turn it into an extra expensive BT dongle.
The limited range of 30ft or less between sender and receiver is painful. The music stream stops every time the sending device leaves that range. It may just be me, but i carry my phone always in my pocket even when its playing music. Every time i leave said range everything stops.
Answering a phone call, guess what? The music stops ...
If one still insists on Bluetooth, there are plenty of inexpensive apt-X compatible BT receivers that can be easily plugged into the line-in on a Play5 or Connect to allow BT streaming across all Sonos speakers if this is a must have.
http://www.amazon.com/Brightech-trade-Functionality-Non-Bluetooth-Simultaneously/dp/B00E3FHXYO
http://amzn.to/1zSV3sr
AirPlay maybe the better solution as it uses the WiFi connection and as such supports any range within the wifi coverage. Retrofitting works the same way as a BT receiver with starting price points that a similar to the BT dongles, even though Sonos recommends Airport Express.
http://amzn.to/1JiW05K
I like the idea of a inbuilt BT in a Boost/Bridge, but they are meant to be placed strategically around a house to build a solid mesh network and not necessarily within sight, with a BT adapter the flexibility would be voided and would turn it into an extra expensive BT dongle.
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