One SUB for Two Rooms



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Don't foresee a response as don't believe this is on Sonos Radar. You have to go into room settings add add the sub to it to switch. Other than grouping two zones that is only method and don't foresee that changing.
I'm blown away this isn't a feature....seems so obvious that I don't see how it was released without the ability to bind to two rooms. Sonos needs to find new talent testing and designing their products.
Unwarranted indignation. IMHO if Sonos added such complexity to cater for the tiny minority who (a) insist on running two Sonos 'rooms' in one physical room and (b) refuse to group them to enable the SUB to support both when needed, then they would need their business heads examined.
I have same problem. I have two Sonos play 5's in my living room that I pair with a SUB. I buy a Playbar and two play 1's for home theater room (also living room) and then add the SUB to that new configuration. When I switch to the Play 5's for streaming music, the SUB is no longer connected. It should remember the previous configuration and ask if you want to disconnect the SUB from the home theater room (which is, again, same physical room for me). Better yet, you configure it to automatically switch to the room that is receiving a stream, or always automatically switch to the most recent stream in case of two current streams.

I'm blown away this isn't a feature....seems so obvious that I don't see how it was released without the ability to bind to two rooms. Sonos needs to find new talent testing and designing their products. Or is it that Sonos just wants more money!?
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Hey guys, thanks for all the feedback. Just a note because this thread is getting a bit long, it is possible to bond the SUB with multiple rooms in the house, just not at the same time. So this request is largely to make it easier to set up the SUB to play with multiple rooms as if it were a player on its own and it could be grouped with other zones easily.

As you know, the SUB setup process does take a little time because you have to pick a few options so the crossover frequency of the SUB gets set right. So there would be the need to save multiple configuration profiles in the SUB along with a few other things too.

Anyway, I'll make sure to pass on your feedback and requests to the team. Again, thanks for sharing!


Thank you for the response. So you say you can bond the sub with multiple rooms in the house. What does that mean? I have Zone 1 running a connect amp and zone 2 running a connect amp. they are almost always playing the same source. However, there are times when Zone 2 may be on and Zone 1 is not. Will the sub power EITHER Zone 1 OR Zone 2?


A Sub is BONDED to a Play unit, or a Stereo pair of Play units or a Playbar.

They are the ONLY configurations possible.

So if the Sub is bonded to your Living Room pair of Play1s and you then want to listen to your Play 3 in the next room with THAT SUB you have to un-bond it from Living Room and then Bond it with the other room
Hey guys, thanks for all the feedback. Just a note because this thread is getting a bit long, it is possible to bond the SUB with multiple rooms in the house, just not at the same time. So this request is largely to make it easier to set up the SUB to play with multiple rooms as if it were a player on its own and it could be grouped with other zones easily.

As you know, the SUB setup process does take a little time because you have to pick a few options so the crossover frequency of the SUB gets set right. So there would be the need to save multiple configuration profiles in the SUB along with a few other things too.

Anyway, I'll make sure to pass on your feedback and requests to the team. Again, thanks for sharing!


Great! hope too see this in the Beta soon!
Hey guys, thanks for all the feedback. Just a note because this thread is getting a bit long, it is possible to bond the SUB with multiple rooms in the house, just not at the same time. So this request is largely to make it easier to set up the SUB to play with multiple rooms as if it were a player on its own and it could be grouped with other zones easily.

As you know, the SUB setup process does take a little time because you have to pick a few options so the crossover frequency of the SUB gets set right. So there would be the need to save multiple configuration profiles in the SUB along with a few other things too.

Anyway, I'll make sure to pass on your feedback and requests to the team. Again, thanks for sharing!


Thank you for the response. So you say you can bond the sub with multiple rooms in the house. What does that mean? I have Zone 1 running a connect amp and zone 2 running a connect amp. they are almost always playing the same source. However, there are times when Zone 2 may be on and Zone 1 is not. Will the sub power EITHER Zone 1 OR Zone 2?
Good to hear it's being looked at. This is a nr 1 priority update for me as well!
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Hey guys, thanks for all the feedback. Just a note because this thread is getting a bit long, it is possible to bond the SUB with multiple rooms in the house, just not at the same time. So this request is largely to make it easier to set up the SUB to play with multiple rooms as if it were a player on its own and it could be grouped with other zones easily.

As you know, the SUB setup process does take a little time because you have to pick a few options so the crossover frequency of the SUB gets set right. So there would be the need to save multiple configuration profiles in the SUB along with a few other things too.

Anyway, I'll make sure to pass on your feedback and requests to the team. Again, thanks for sharing!
I received my Sub today and I can't believe that it's not possible to link it to different zones. This makes the Sub useless for my room situation, so it'll probably go back. Come on Sonos, this discussion is going on for more than two years now. The sub is quite expensive, so please make it as flexible as possible!
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Option still not available? Come on Sonos... This really holds me back buying a sub.
This is a real bummer that we can’t bind a sub to 2 different “zone” for 2 different use. I don’t want to use my Playbar for music neither I want to use my connect for movies. And I will definitely not purchase a second sub! This is something that should be allow and addressed in a new software release.

Please Sonos, can't you make a way I can set my new SUB to play in both zones so I can have it for both use?
Yes, it really irks me that I bought two play:5's and was only offered the option of setting these up as surrounds, not lefts and rights. So they sit there dormant while I'm watching films.

Then when I'm playing music, my sub is sitting dormant as I don't want the Playbar muddying up the sound of the two Play:5's!

This is craziness! Why can't we create our own groups of individual peakers without making them mutually exclusive and why can't the playbar operate as a center?
I agree... I'd really like to use a sub in two zones which are right next to each other... So if I'm using either zone on its own the sub automatically kicks in.. Plus 1 from me... Come on Sonos... How about a comment from you on this awesome idea?

What happens if two different people in each room start playing different music?
I agree... I'd really like to use a sub in two zones which are right next to each other... So if I'm using either zone on its own the sub automatically kicks in.. Plus 1 from me... Come on Sonos... How about a comment from you on this awesome idea?
+1 on being able to switch a Sub between two zones
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I agree switching is tedious and unnecessary when sub can be placed effectively between the two zones. Some times both zones are paired together. Other times it is just one zone or the other. A playbar and sub while watching video, or music while cooking in adjacent room. A quick two click would seem an easy enough feature. Nicer still would be a automatic switch if using just one zone.
You won't find me buying another sub....user friendly is going to gain users. Help us out Sonos!
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I agree. An easier way to transfer is probably what we are looking for.

The application might be specific to the sub / playbar combination. I *only* use the playbar when watching movies / tv and never as a general music room source. I would like to be able to use the sub with my Play:5 stereo pair in the same room which I use *only* as a music source and never when I'm watching TV with the playbar. Right now switching has enough of a effort barrier that I don't like switching the sub using the current protocol.


willryu drop me a note at ifican@gmail.com when you get a moment.
I agree. An easier way to transfer is probably what we are looking for.

The application might be specific to the sub / playbar combination. I *only* use the playbar when watching movies / tv and never as a general music room source. I would like to be able to use the sub with my Play:5 stereo pair in the same room which I use *only* as a music source and never when I'm watching TV with the playbar. Right now switching has enough of a effort barrier that I don't like switching the sub using the current protocol.


SUB will mute along with PLAY:1. There is no way to defeat this -- unless you place PLAY:1 inside of a soundproof enclosure (or in the garage).
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I agree. An easier way to transfer is probably what we are looking for.

The application might be specific to the sub / playbar combination. I *only* use the playbar when watching movies / tv and never as a general music room source. I would like to be able to use the sub with my Play:5 stereo pair in the same room which I use *only* as a music source and never when I'm watching TV with the playbar. Right now switching has enough of a effort barrier that I don't like switching the sub using the current protocol.


That's a very clever idea Thomas! If I understand you correctly then the SUB+AMP is it's own virtual room and then I could pair this with any other room(s).

Unfortunately I'm not sure I can find a deal as good as you have found on a used Sonos AMP. I'm in Canada and searching around a bit it would probably cost at least $350 or more.

Downsides? I guess if you have to sorry about the phase and or level changes this could be a problem. Fortunately I find that I don't have to change a thing when I switch my sub between my Play:5s and Playbar.

Hmm. I wonder if I just use a Play:1 and have it muted? or will that also mute the associated SUB? Or maybe I can modify it in a reversible way so that it is silent.

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Will
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I agree. An easier way to transfer is probably what we are looking for.

The application might be specific to the sub / playbar combination. I *only* use the playbar when watching movies / tv and never as a general music room source. I would like to be able to use the sub with my Play:5 stereo pair in the same room which I use *only* as a music source and never when I'm watching TV with the playbar. Right now switching has enough of a effort barrier that I don't like switching the sub using the current protocol.


Agreed its an ask I have had as well for quite a long time the easiest way if you are doing it all the time has a minor cost to it. You find an old sonos amp on ebay, can usually be had for about 100. Pair that sub with that amp then you can simply group that amp (which is just the sub) with any other zone. That is the easiest way i have found to easily switch the sub from zone to zone to zone at will.
I agree. An easier way to transfer is probably what we are looking for.

The application might be specific to the sub / playbar combination. I *only* use the playbar when watching movies / tv and never as a general music room source. I would like to be able to use the sub with my Play:5 stereo pair in the same room which I use *only* as a music source and never when I'm watching TV with the playbar. Right now switching has enough of a effort barrier that I don't like switching the sub using the current protocol.


Exactly what willryu said - excellent clarification. We're not asking for simultaneous - just an easy way to reconfigure the sub between TV watching and music in nearby physical space with different "rooms".
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I agree. An easier way to transfer is probably what we are looking for.

The application might be specific to the sub / playbar combination. I *only* use the playbar when watching movies / tv and never as a general music room source. I would like to be able to use the sub with my Play:5 stereo pair in the same room which I use *only* as a music source and never when I'm watching TV with the playbar. Right now switching has enough of a effort barrier that I don't like switching the sub using the current protocol.


Hello Thomas.

Personally I'm not asking for simultaneous use. I'm asking for an easier way to switch between a stereo Play:5 pair and the Playbar which are both in the same physical room, but are separated into two different virtual rooms (LR:Music and LR:TV)

I listen to music in the morning and then watch TV at night almost everyday. This requires me to switch the sub *every day* from the virtual Play:5(s) room and the virtual Playbar room. This just becomes tedious enough for me that I stopped doing it after awhile.

I realize that there are some clumsy UI or design issues to figure out but it would be nice to have the SUB associate with 2 virtual rooms. And automatically switch between them when they are played separated (LR:MUSIC vs LR:TV). When asked to play both, then the SUB could default to playing with just one room (e.g. LR:Music).

 
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I agree. An easier way to transfer is probably what we are looking for.

The application might be specific to the sub / playbar combination. I *only* use the playbar when watching movies / tv and never as a general music room source. I would like to be able to use the sub with my Play:5 stereo pair in the same room which I use *only* as a music source and never when I'm watching TV with the playbar. Right now switching has enough of a effort barrier that I don't like switching the sub using the current protocol.


It can be easily moved from zone to zone. Takes more clicks than i care it too but once you get the hang of it takes all of 5-10 seconds to do. Simultaneous will never be an option because that would mean the sub could get 2 different music streams at the same time.
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I agree. An easier way to transfer is probably what we are looking for.

The application might be specific to the sub / playbar combination. I *only* use the playbar when watching movies / tv and never as a general music room source. I would like to be able to use the sub with my Play:5 stereo pair in the same room which I use *only* as a music source and never when I'm watching TV with the playbar. Right now switching has enough of a effort barrier that I don't like switching the sub using the current protocol.
I'm having trouble visualizing how a single SUB could be simultaneously assigned to two rooms. I guess that this would be OK if there was a single user who used only one room at a time and the rooms were joined, but what happens if both rooms are playing and the volume in one room is changed?

How about an option to "transfer" or "move" a SUB's bonding from one room to another? This would eliminate some fuss.

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