Sonos One Gen 2 Now Available


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The Sonos One is getting an internal component update, which means Sonos One (Gen 2) will begin showing up in stores and websites soon if they aren't already listed. Functionally and aesthetically, you won't notice a difference between the two generations of Sonos One, and both will continue to be supported through regular updates. 

The main changes for Gen 2 are an updated processor, Bluetooth Low Energy (BLE for setup and troubleshooting), and increased memory.

You can stereo pair a Gen 2 with Gen 1, or use them together with a Sonos home theater setup as surrounds. There aren't any functionality changes between the two, and Google Assistant will be coming to both of them when we're ready to go.

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Hi Andyd1302, you're correct in that limit is a result of the maximum amount of memory allocated on Sonos players for the music index. While newer players have more memory than the older ones, we still keep updating all of the older ones too in the software department. Since the music index is stored on all Sonos players in the household, the limit has to be in place based on the lowest memory among players.

We know that a dedicated portion of the community is interested in seeing something worked around to increase this limit, but I don't have any news I can share about future plans. We'll be sure to post on the community if there's any movement around this topic.
Sorry, in what way have they been obsoleted? Ryan specifically states in his post Google Assistant will be coming to both of them when we're ready to go.
Pirate, there is no point to purchasing/upgrading hardware if you don't need to. Yes, it future proofs your installation, but if you're not using that functionality now, since it doesn't exist, then there's absolutely no point. My suspicion is the extra functionality might be needed in 2 years with some new Sonos system change, but it certainly won't be an immediate issue.

I continue to use PLAY:1s, PLAY:3s, PLAY:5 gen 1, without any need to update them to Sonos Ones, or PLAY:5 gen 2s, and they all continue to perform flawlessly for me. And no, I didn't complain when Sonos added AirPlay 2, since it wasn't a feature that was included or promised when I bought those devices. Sure, I picked up a Sonos One, so I could group it with the rest of my speakers....but the original speakers continue to work in exactly the way they did when I purchased them.

I suspect there are a lot of people out there with the old ZonePlayers, too. I read recently a quote from the CEO (I think) that said that somewhere in the vicinity of 90% of all Sonos speakers sold were still in use.

If you like your install, keep it. Don't purchase anything new until you need to. It might be later this year, it could be 5 years from now, and there will be lots of new options.
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Sonos naming protocol logic remains a puzzle. The 5 gen 2 is a completely different player and will not even pair with the gen 1; it ought to have been called a 6 or more.
This one on the other hand is said to be functionally identical with the same appearance, and will pair with the gen 1. So why the announcement? I am sure that all products go through changes in internal componentry from time to time that is never announced here.


Because people will notice the gen 2 and then go completely insane trying to guess what the differences are and spread false rumors about what impact that has. As usual, it is better for the company to distribute the facts in advance rather than let the rumor mill do its thing.
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If Sonos have recognised a future need for better processing power or increased memory, it's good they are planning ahead. If they don't release the enhanced speaker as "Gen 2" they will sooner or later get floods of "this speaker works but that one doesn't". This way, a future feature can be identified as "not available for Gen 1"

For me: I just bought some Gen 1's a few weeks ago, before Gen 2 was leaked. Am I upset the Gen 2 is now available: yes. Had I known I prob would have held off buying.

But whilst a dumb, wired speaker will last indefinitely, intelligent ones like Sonos will be evolving for a long time. I bought based on current capabilities, as should we all.

If I had dumb, wired speakers the amp/receiver/processor would be the evolving element and sooner or later that component would lack a "must-have" new feature. I wouldn't berate the amp manufacturer for including it in a new version of my amp and not back-engineering it into mine.

Well done Sonos, for planning and manufacturing for future needs.
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I wonder what Google Integration promises they are giving with the Gen 2's, now that the Gen 1's have been obsoleted without fulfillment.... ;)

No jab at you Ryan, just venting.
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Pirate - To Sonos's defense, I would imagine that the upgrade had something to do with this new Qobuz and other future high bitrate streaming applications where a more powerful processor and more ram is mission critical to help ensure a smooth, stutter free transmission. Now the BT aspect is a bit more questionable. Why integrate BT, for set up only instead of allowing BT streaming? Pretty dumb if you ask me.
Yes, but this is not an era of products at the planned obsolescence that has just opened. How long will our old Play1s benefit from new updates?

Considering every Sonos player ever made still receives updates, and the only thing ever to not be updated is the 14 year old CR100 controller, I'd start to wonder about that sometime around 2027.
You see me reassured by your optimism. I can only wish the longest possible life for our Sonos systems
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Pure speculation, but I would guess this has more to do with production costs than it does with future proofing the product. It's well known that Sonos saw themselves as being late to the voice control game, and wanted to get the Sonos One to the market as quick as possible. It's quite possible that they did not get the best deals in place for parts, favoring getting the product to market over getting the cost as low as possible. It's not too surprising that Sonos could get the same product out a year and half later with better quality, and cheaper parts. (Cheaper in cost, not quality).

I'm not saying the Gen 2 doesn't future proof Sonos One a bit more, but I can't see that as the primary motivator, as they likely wouldn't do this if it didn't increase profitability at the same time.
I literally bought Sonos One (Gen 1) 2 weeks ago. Should I bother exchanging my devices for Gen 2? I hate to bother but I don't want to be "phased out" while I'm just getting on board with my Sonos setup.
I believe you should, if the free return window is available to you. I see no sense in a gen 2 being announced if it really is functionally identical, so I strongly suspect that this identical stuff is true today, but may probably not be so tomorrow.
In the past Sonos has changed its internal components without changing the model designation, so there has to be reason they are departing from this practice.
Will there be any difference in MSRP between Gen 1 and Gen 2 Sonos One devices? When will they hit retailers? If they have, does the packaging look any different?
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I realise a collective groan will descend across the forum, but I was wondering if a Sonos rep could plesse confirm if the release of the Gen2 model has addressed one of the bugbears of Gen1 devices, namely the "65,000" indexing limit, which made me hold off purchasing more Sonos units and seemed to be a recurring issue for many...

https://en.community.sonos.com/controllers-software-228995/65-000-track-limit-unreasonable-4757599

Whilst the advent of streaming services has somewhat weakened the argument in recent Years, for those purchasers living in a rural area whose internet connection is flaky at best & where streaming services are inappropriate, it would be good to know Sonos has listened to concerns raised and developed a Worldwide model that finally addresses the indexing limit in the hardware of the Gen2 model so at least those users affected can enjoy their own networked music beyond the "65,000 limit".
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Something to keep in mind when asking for updates to some of the restrictions Sonos imposes is that they have a huge number of devices out there and in use that don't have the memory to support very much in the way of upgrades and each tweak must be carefully weighed against the remaining free space or the need to drop features (like the CR-100 support) to make room for them.

The number of folks needing more than 65K tracks is probably pretty small particularly in comparison to folks with ZPs and the like that are the most limited devices. The folks facing the 65K limit have other options to work around it, the ZP folks would need new devices or Sonos would have to develop, test and maintain two different sets of software. We see the same issues with asking for an SMB update.
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Ryan, if someone orders a speaker set containing Sonos Ones, will they be getting Gen 1 or Gen 2?
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Good question, melvimbe. All of the bundles and speaker sets from Sonos.com that include a Sonos One will be shipping out a Gen 2 as of today. To get the Gen 1, you have to order à la carte.
Is this the S18?
Is this the S18?
I guess so. It's time to come to terms with the fact that the Play:3 is gone for good.
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Is this the S18?

Somewhat of an anti-klimax in that case. Like the release of the beam..:S
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Sorry, in what way have they been obsoleted? Ryan specifically states in his post Google Assistant will be coming to both of them when we're ready to go.

Umm, firstly it was a clearly a tongue in cheek comment, but you knew that. Secondly, when a product or component will no longer be available and has been replaced with a next generation product, the original product is considered obsoleted. You knew that too. Nowhere did I say the eventual GI was cancelled for v1.
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This is may be a rhetorical question, but what is the point of issuing new hardware for a second gen product if you have no current use for the upgrades? Would it not be better to hold off and implement newer hardware at the time you actually need it? At a glance, that seems like it would more "future proof" the product. Unless 1) the original was distributed way under-powered, or 2) there is some necessity to boost the performance in the near future (which I believe has been denied). Just trying to think through this one out loud.

I have four Ones and a Beam and love them.
mrmagloo, the BT you speak of is the Bluetooth Low Energy system, like exists in the Beam already. It's not designed for streaming music, it's designed for ease of setup only.
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mrmagloo, the BT you speak of is the Bluetooth Low Energy system, like exists in the Beam already. It's not designed for streaming music, it's designed for ease of setup only.The point is, what's the sense of going through the trouble of adding any BT, to cut corners and avoid solving an already glaring short coming.
Sonos naming protocol logic remains a puzzle. The 5 gen 2 is a completely different player and will not even pair with the gen 1; it ought to have been called a 6 or more.
This one on the other hand is said to be functionally identical with the same appearance, and will pair with the gen 1. So why the announcement? I am sure that all products go through changes in internal componentry from time to time that is never announced here.
How would they know any difference if it wasn't called gen 2 in the first place?