Sonos 9.2 - Automatic Updates, Volume Limits, Desktop, Dock and More

  • 9 October 2018
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Sonos version 9.2 is now available with some new settings and features, improvements to our partner API, a whole new look and some changes to the Desktop Controller for Mac and Windows, and end of support for the Sonos Dock.

Settings: Automatic Updates, Volume Limits, Disable Wi-Fi, and more

 
With Sonos version 9.2, you can enable automatic updates for your Sonos system, so that during a timeframe when the system isn't in use, they'll download the latest updates for you. This will allow you to effortlessly keep your system on the latest software by setting your Sonos players to download and install new versions. Using a mobile controller, go to More > Settings > System Updates > Automatic Updates and slide it on. 

Select a general time period that your system will check for updates, and as long as the players aren't in use at the time, they'll go ahead with the update when it's available. If your speakers are in use, they'll wait until they aren't anymore.

Volume Limits
Ever have the neighbors complain that you're playing music too loud or have a room for the kids that you want to keep quieter? With Sonos version 9.2, you can set a maximum volume at a per room level. Within More > Settings > Room Settings > Volume Limit, you can pick what level the maximum volume should be. 

Once that limit is set, the volume bar will still look like it goes from 0-100, but 100% will now reflect what your volume limit is now set to. This has the added benefit of being able to get more granular control of players at low volume, as the volume steps will scale up or down with the max volume.

Disabling Wi-Fi
Starting today, some settings that were hidden behind local web servers have moved within the settings of the Sonos app. You can now choose to disable the wireless of Sonos speakers. Just go to More > Settings > Room Settings > Advanced Room > Wi-Fi.

You can only disable the wireless on Sonos speakers that are wired into the network, otherwise they'd get stranded and would need a factory reset to re-connect. So make sure you don't disconnect the Ethernet on speakers that you disable the wireless on.

Setting Surrounds
It's now possible to bond the Connect:Amp as a surround speaker for a Beam, Playbar, or Playbase using the Sonos app. You'll need to have the Connect:Amp wired into the network along with the home theater speaker, or have the two wired together with an Ethernet cable. This is because the Connect:Amp doesn't have the needed hardware to run wirelessly. On that note, the recently announced Sonos Amp will be able to do this wirelessly.

System requirements, alerts, and warnings:


We've updated the look of the Desktop Controller for Mac and Windows computers as discussed in this thread here. New system setup and configuration options have been removed from the Desktop Controller. It is no longer possible to use the Desktop Controller to setup or transfer a Sonos system, add a player, create or separate stereo pairs, register players, setup a TV, enable parental controls, manage network settings, adjust line-in settings, opt in or out of beta programs, or change Sonos account passwords. Please use the Sonos App for iOS or Android to change these settings instead. You can find out more in the thread here

This software release ends connectivity for the Sonos Dock, originally released in 2010. Upon updating to version 9.2, the Dock will no longer connect to your system (although it can still be used as a charger). Learn more at http://www.sonos.com/dock or join the discussion in this thread.

Finally, operating systems iOS 9 and Android 4.x are now partially supported by the Sonos App. Devices running iOS 9 or Android 4.x can still browse, search and play music using this version of the Sonos app. Less common tasks like adding new speakers, modifying music services, or setting up a new Sonos system require Android 5.0 or higher, or iOS 10 or higher.

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Not sure where to mention it, but really disappointed in the loss of desktop functionality to configure and manage rooms. The desktop app is predominantly where I did those system changes/modifications. With the whole restless & api driven nature of development for multiple platforms(apple, android, desktop) it's disappointing to see sonos go the route of deleting functionality. I still love my sonos system, but I've lot a little bit of Sonos love today.

I really like the idea of the automatic updates, but worried future automatic updates will also delete functionality.
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First Sonos ruined the iOS app, now it is ruining the desktop app. After upgrading, when I first saw the new look of the desktop app I thought "wow, they really removed a lot of controls!" But on closer inspection, most of the controls are still there (like Next Song, Repeat, etc.), they are just very hard to see because they are tiny and dark gray on black. Even if I turn my screen up to 100% they are hard to see. My eyesight isn't perfect, but it's not terrible, and even I can barely see them. Someone with real sight problems will have a very hard time seeing those tiny dark gray controls.

Count me as one of those very unhappy Sonos removed functionality from the desktop app, I use the desktop app the most to control my Sonos device. I rarely use the iOS app now because the last major update made a mess of it, IMO. For example, I really loved being able to control the music from my lock screen. GONE! The organization of my content on the mobile app is also horrible, showing only a small fraction of my content on the "Browse" screen, requiring I tap a very tiny "See More" link to actually see all of my content. Just a lot of dumb choices about how the app works and organizes content.

I feel about this desktop app update the way I did about the mobile app update a while ago: VERY DISAPPOINTED.
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Not sure where to mention it, but really disappointed in the loss of desktop functionality to configure and manage rooms. The desktop app is predominantly where I did those system changes/modifications. With the whole restless & api driven nature of development for multiple platforms(apple, android, desktop) it's disappointing to see sonos go the route of deleting functionality. I still love my sonos system, but I've lot a little bit of Sonos love today.
I can assure you that you're not alone here. There was another topic that Ryan started in advance of this update as a warning of this change, and there are a few replies from myself and others there in the same boat... but nonetheless, Sonos saw fit to remove much of the setting functionality from the desktop controller, likely because it's not used often enough compared to their mobile apps.
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Won't be upgrading-loss of room control on desktop app is deal breaker for me, personally. I manage my music library, services, and RAID on my desktop, and in front of my desktop is where I spend most of my time during the workday. But I now have to pull out my cell phone to manage my 9 rooms? Honestly, how hard is it to keep this feature? Perhaps the writing is on the wall.
Updated to 9.2 on my PC and now many features are missing from the app, most importantly Room settings and the ability to add speakers. Is this an oversight, or are we now expected to do this only from the mobile app?
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First issue with the Desktop app on Windows. The app does not retain window size and position between sessions, but always opens to a preset size and position. That's a big no-no for me.
Yep, I'm seeing this too. I'm guessing Sonos will confirm it as a known issue... hopefully it will be fixed quickly as it's definitely annoying. I much prefer a smaller window size that loads in the lower left corner of my screen.
Mel, thanks so much for the link, sorry I missed it in Ryan's post. The explanation was thorough, though it's never going to make users happy when key features are removed during a mandatory update. I agree with Sonos' mission to support mobile devices and integration, but it seems there should be a way to do this not at the expense of the PC application.
All my settings on the Mac are no longer there.

I suggest you read the above announcement in full.
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Why? Why not just leave it as it was. Taking functions away is unbelievable.
Why? Why not just leave it as it was. Taking functions away is unbelievable.

Here's the link again:

https://en.community.sonos.com/announcements-228985/updates-to-the-desktop-controller-coming-soon-6813300

The reasons are not listed out in easy to read bullets, and of course Sonos isn't going to give every detail of the decision, but you can get the general idea and caught up on the discussion.
Why? Why not just leave it as it was. Taking functions away is unbelievable.
Development costs (perhaps?) ...I personally suspect that research and questionnaires undertaken on behalf of Sonos, may have shown those pages (now removed in the 9.2 release), were possibly rarely used in the Windows/Mac controller App and that people are now turning more towards their mobiles and tablets to perform the removed actions/features.

If that is true, then it will mean the future effort of the development staff can be concentrated on introducing even more new features, that a majority of users will find useful.

Just my guess of course. It’s what makes 'business sense' to cut out these perhaps 'rarely used' pages and streamline the desktop controllers.
Thanks very much Ryan for those replies .. appreciate the fast response. The replies have expanded my understanding of these great new features. Cheers ?
My Windows desktop controller is only in black and white, including the album art. What setting corrects that?

Edit: Never mind. Loading in a new album instead of the one already in queue for the update fixed that. WAY too much black and white now though.
Thanks for clarifying, Ryan.

BTW, I think that the volume limit, with associated beneficial effect on low volume control, will be well received by many users. It's not something I shall use, but I'm sure some others will. It also shows that the occasional claims on here that 'Sonos doesn't listen to its users' are unfounded. Sonos cannot, and should not, do everything that's requested, but does respond when the gain justifies the effort.
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BTW, I think that the volume limit, with associated beneficial effect on low volume control, will be well received by many users. It's not something I shall use, but I'm sure some others will. It also shows that the occasional claims on here that 'Sonos doesn't listen to its users' are unfounded. Sonos cannot, and should not, do everything that's requested, but does respond when the gain justifies the effort.
Yes, this is definitely a plus! To improve the low-range volume control, you can set a lower limit. For example, make the limit be 50 (which is still plenty loud), and you double the resolution of the volume control (50% on the slider is now what used to be 25% when the limit was 100). And the limit applies to everything, including alarms, so make sure to adjust those if you set a limit, otherwise the volume may be too low now!
Icardex,

A 'bonded' PlayBar setup, with the two Play 5’s and a Sub, uses the 5ghz radio in all the bonded devices ... you have switched off both the 5ghz and 2.4ghz radio on the PlayBar, so the sub cannot connect to it over the SonosNet wireless signal, which only runs over the 2.4ghz band ... that band is not quick (timely) enough for a bonded 5.1 signal ... the sub is 'bonded' and is therefore looking for that type of 5ghz radio connection. I’m not sure though if it will work when it is perhaps cabled to the LAN ??
So Ryan..I run in Boost mode using a dedicated Boost. So if I understand your statement...If I turn-off the wireless unless every speaker I own is wired via Ethernet I'd loose all Sonos? That being the case...when and why would one turn off wireless... It seems like a Catch22 :?
Mostly this is a feature for those who have all of their Sonos devices wired into the network, like for home run installations with a bunch of Sonos Amps in a cabinet, all hardwired to a switch. Turning off the wireless on wired players will disconnect every wireless one that isn't able to get back to the router another way. Just like @Icardex talks about in the post just after yours. If you have the wireless disabled, all of the wireless is disabled, which means wireless Sonos devices can't connect. That includes Subs connecting to a Playbar, which is done wirelessly.

AjTrek1,

As you can see perhaps, icardex has already encountered some issues here, by turning off the radio on his wired PlayBar and he’s missed the fact that the 5ghz radio in the PlayBar was the main communication link to his bonded Sub. Obviously the Sub won’t connect over 2.4ghz SonosNet signal, because it is expecting the 5ghz connection via the PlayBar and thus communication has been lost to the Sub and the same thing would have happened to his surrounds too, if they had not been wired.

I assume wiring the sub might be one course of action, but best really to re-enable the radio again on the PlayBar, me thinks.

It’s sometimes best to leave these Advanced WiFi Settings to the professionals, perhaps?
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It’s sometimes best to leave these Advanced WiFi Settings to the professionals, perhaps?

If there is a button or setting, it is our duty to push it or change it. 😃
Why don't you focus on adding DTS support to the playbar instead of this other BS.

Get with it SONOS!


The Playbar will never support DTS. So how about you suggest something that has a chance of being implemented instead of useless complaining?
It’s sometimes best to leave these Advanced WiFi Settings to the professionals, perhaps?

If there is a button or setting, it is our duty to push it or change it. :D

ha ha ...that just reminded me of this...


I intend to leave Sonos all the path options it wants. Partially disabling wireless is not for me. Each to their own.
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I am surprised and disappointed that Sonos chose to remove functionality from the desktop. I like others on this forum use the desktop to control my sonos speakers. Removing that control does not make sense. Why can't we have both--desktop and mobile?
I am surprised and disappointed that Sonos chose to remove functionality from the desktop. I like others on this forum use the desktop to control my sonos speakers. Removing that control does not make sense. Why can't we have both--desktop and mobile?Please see this thread, linked in the opening post.
https://en.community.sonos.com/announcements-228985/updates-to-the-desktop-controller-coming-soon-6813300
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Icardex,

A 'bonded' PlayBar setup, with the two Play 5’s and a Sub, uses the 5ghz radio in all the bonded devices ... you have switched off both the 5ghz and 2.4ghz radio on the PlayBar, so the sub cannot connect to it over the SonosNet wireless signal, which only runs over the 2.4ghz band ... that band is not quick (timely) enough for a bonded 5.1 signal ... the sub is 'bonded' and is therefore looking for that type of 5ghz radio connection. I’m not sure though if it will work when it is perhaps cabled to the LAN ??


Thanks for your tip! I did not know that SONOS used the internal frequency 5GHz to establish connection with the Sub. I turn on onboard WI-FI again.
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Hi guys!

Thanks for the update with volume limit, finally, which was requested by many customers.

I know how far I can go with the volume-bar before it's too loud. But I don't know the percentage.
In volume limit-settings you can set a percentage.


Would be nice feature to also show the percentage here on the volume-bar

So I know what percentage to put in volume limit.

It's hard to guess the percentage on the picture. I tried 10% but I think it still sounds louder, when I crank it up to 100% on the volume-bar.