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Meet Sonos Five, studio-quality sound

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Hi to everybody. Sometimes speed bump it’s due to new electronic components and cpu on the market that substitute the old ones. IMHO the five it’s one of the finest loudspeaker you can find on the market and i do not miss the lack of the microphone on it. I use two play:5 stereo paired to listen music, not to talk with them. I suppose the new Five will serve great for years, like my 2nd generation did (actually they are doing well even today...)

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I think that promoting it as a bathroom speaker without having voice control is a bit of a mistake. My bathroom ones placed so that I can't reach the touch controls, and when in the bathroom you're in the shower, or have a toothbrush in your hands etc., so voice control is really helpful. Would have liked to switch them out for something a little bass heavier with stereo in one speaker, but alas, no luck with these new fives.

The Five isn’t really designed for bathroom use, but if you’d like something with a bigger sound than a Sonos One, the Move would be a great choice for bathrooms. It’s more water resistant and as a bonus, you can listen on the go if you want.

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I think that promoting it as a bathroom speaker without having voice control is a bit of a mistake. My bathroom ones placed so that I can't reach the touch controls, and when in the bathroom you're in the shower, or have a toothbrush in your hands etc., so voice control is really helpful. Would have liked to switch them out for something a little bass heavier with stereo in one speaker, but alas, no luck with these new fives.

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I don’t think the processor information for the Play:5 Gen 2 is available anywhere.

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It is on the product page.

 

https://www.sonos.com/en-us/shop/five.html

 

CPU
Quad Core
1.3 GHz

 

Memory
512 MB SDRAM
512 MB NAND Flash

Not Five (gen 3) I’m asking about play 5 (gen2)


The Play:5 (Gen 2) has 256MB of RAM and 256MB of Flash.  That makes the update even more underwhelming.

The Five specs are in line with the One SL and the Port.  It looks like Sonos has settled on 512MB for devices without Home Theater functionality or voice control.  Any device that has voice control or HT capability gets upped to 1GB of RAM and Flash.  The only exception is the Arc, which gets 1GB of RAM and 4GB of Flash.

Thanks ! Do you also know about the processor spec for gen2 play 5? I agree the memory upgrade is underwhelming given that memory is cheap. No change in architecture. Looks like Sonos team ran out of ideas. 

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I was talking about the currently sold devices, of course.

I also forgot to mention the Sub.  The Gen 3 only gets 256MB/256MB, but that makes sense because it is always connected to another device that can handle most of the processing.

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It is on the product page.

 

https://www.sonos.com/en-us/shop/five.html

 

CPU
Quad Core
1.3 GHz

 

Memory
512 MB SDRAM
512 MB NAND Flash

Not Five (gen 3) I’m asking about play 5 (gen2)


The Play:5 (Gen 2) has 256MB of RAM and 256MB of Flash.  That makes the update even more underwhelming.

The Five specs are in line with the One SL and the Port.  It looks like Sonos has settled on 512MB for devices without Home Theater functionality or voice control.  Any device that has voice control or HT capability gets upped to 1GB of RAM and Flash.  The only exception is the Arc, which gets 1GB of RAM and 4GB of Flash.

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It is on the product page.

 

https://www.sonos.com/en-us/shop/five.html

 

CPU
Quad Core
1.3 GHz

 

Memory
512 MB SDRAM
512 MB NAND Flash

Not Five (gen 3) I’m asking about play 5 (gen2)

It is on the product page.

 

https://www.sonos.com/en-us/shop/five.html

 

CPU
Quad Core
1.3 GHz

 

Memory
512 MB SDRAM
512 MB NAND Flash

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Does anyone know what are the processor and memory specs of Play 5 (Gen 2) ?

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Will the Sonos Play 5 Gen 2 stand also work for Sonos Five?

Yes. The Sonos Five has the same footprint as the Play:5 gen 2 and the same accessories will work with it.

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Currently on the Sonos Five page on Sonos website it says that the Memory is 512 MB SDRAM & 512 MB NAND Flash. Why did Sonos change it from the specs posted originally i.e. 1 GB SDRAM and 4 GB NV?

 

It looks like initially a mistake was made and wrong specs posted. The first few days they posted for the Sub wrong information too (I believe they posted 2GB SDRAM and 4GB NV). Later they corrected it to 256MB SDRAM / 256MB NV and added the spec for the CPU. To me, the new specs look more plausible and in line with the capabilities of each component.

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Will the Sonos Play 5 Gen 2 stand also work for Sonos Five?

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Currently on the Sonos Five page on Sonos website it says that the Memory is 512 MB SDRAM & 512 MB NAND Flash. Why did Sonos change it from the specs posted originally i.e. 1 GB SDRAM and 4 GB NV?

 

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Hi, I don’t know if this is the right thread for this but you can move it somewhere else suitable if you like. (Perhaps someone has already asked this somewhere.)

I have some thoughts regarding the new Five.

As read in an article online somewhere-

Why now- why so little?

Talking to people here in Sweden many seems a bit confused why there were so little upgrades on the new Sonos flagship speaker. Yes more memory better processor and WiFi radio, but many people I know including myself really thought that Sonos would release a new Bluesound Pulse2i killer, something that would outperform their flagship and other competitors.(and outperform the play5gen2)

I have not heard the Pulse2i myself but according to my brother it has more of everything compared to the Gen2?

(e.g 24 bit/192 kHz and more power and quality psb drivers)

What’s your opinion of the Five versus the Pulse2i? (In let’s say a stereo pair.)

What would you prefer and why?

 

*This leaves me with the question, will Sonos soon release another speaker that might take over the throne from the Five as the flagship Sonos audiophile speaker? Perhaps the New “Sonos Six” :wink::thinking: (they have also removed the phrase “Our most powerful speaker available” on the web site :thinking: )

 

Have a good day! Or evening as here in Sweden!

 


They are different speakers - 2 woofers 2 tweeters in the Blusound vs. 3 woofers and 3 tweeters in the Sonos.   But Sonos woofers are only 4” vs. 5.25” in the Bluesound.   Person to person they are going to have a preference for one or other - one review or person does not make for one better than other.   Sonos Trueplay tune really helps Sonos shine though.

We won’t know how the sound is tweaked with the new version but I’m sure there are some subtle changes.   Also getting higher bit rate on Sonos will help the audiophile crowd.

Overall - good healthy competition.

I’m wondering if they have plans to use these as rear Atmos speakers.

 

The side firing tweeters look like they could double as upward firing Atmos tweeters when the speakers are placed vertically as surrounds.

 

 

I can’t imagine they would ever do such a thing.

 

That would be a crazy coincidence, since the Play:5 Gen 2 was released back in 2015 (and has the same design).  I assume that Atmos wasn’t even on their radar back then..

 

Not really.  Side firing speakers help to provide an illusion of a bigger soundstage.  They did the same thing on the Beam as well.  As I understand it the Arc has side firing speakers partially for Atmos content and partially for the soundstage.

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I’m wondering if they have plans to use these as rear Atmos speakers.

 

The side firing tweeters look like they could double as upward firing Atmos tweeters when the speakers are placed vertically as surrounds.

 

That would be a crazy coincidence, since the Play:5 Gen 2 was released back in 2015 (and has the same design).  I assume that Atmos wasn’t even on their radar back then..

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Hi, Five are future proof?

WiFi 6 is present and seams Five will not supported. What Sonos means by HD sound?

This codecs will play natively: 24 bit/44.1 kHz - 24 bit/96 kHz or 24 bit/192 kHz?

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Hi, I don’t know if this is the right thread for this but you can move it somewhere else suitable if you like. (Perhaps someone has already asked this somewhere.)

I have some thoughts regarding the new Five.

As read in an article online somewhere-

Why now- why so little?

Talking to people here in Sweden many seems a bit confused why there were so little upgrades on the new Sonos flagship speaker. Yes more memory better processor and WiFi radio, but many people I know including myself really thought that Sonos would release a new Bluesound Pulse2i killer, something that would outperform their flagship and other competitors.(and outperform the play5gen2)

I have not heard the Pulse2i myself but according to my brother it has more of everything compared to the Gen2?

(e.g 24 bit/192 kHz and more power and quality psb drivers)

What’s your opinion of the Five versus the Pulse2i? (In let’s say a stereo pair.)

What would you prefer and why?

 

*This leaves me with the question, will Sonos soon release another speaker that might take over the throne from the Five as the flagship Sonos audiophile speaker? Perhaps the New “Sonos Six” :wink::thinking: (they have also removed the phrase “Our most powerful speaker available” on the web site :thinking: )

 

Have a good day! Or evening as here in Sweden!

 

@pup,

Thanks for that honest review.  Check the posting history of the person who stated Homepod was better than a Five.  They have never once, in five years, said one thing positive about Sonos.  Not once.  So you can take their opinion with a grain of salt the size of Wyoming.

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I don’t think I’ve ever seen a review that picked a HomePod over a Five.  There were several that placed it above a One, but that was when it first came out, and before Apple neutered it with a midrange focused EQ update.  I’ve owned both (HomePod and several Ones) and IMO, the new EQ changed the HomePod from being slightly better than the One to being slightly worse.  And given its other deficiencies (no ethernet, no individual tone control, worse networking, no good way to integrate it with TVs for surround sound, higher price, etc.) I just don’t see how it competes well at all with Sonos in its current state, at least for most people’s needs.  Anyway, long winded way to say that if it doesn’t compare well with the Sonos One, why should compare well to a Five?  

Besides, as others have said, the Five isn’t really meant to compete with smart speakers.  They’re designed for people who would otherwise be looking at something like KEFs, for dedicated listening.  

The HomePod has its place for some buyers and I appreciate that.  If you have Apple Music and are otherwise already committed to apple’s ecosystem, are ok with Siri, and can get it on one of the $199 sales, then it’s a good buy for a go anywhere speaker for general ambient listening.  I personally prefer the One even in that scenario, but I wouldn’t fault someone who preferred the HomePod for whatever reason.  

By the way, I also own a Move and can say with zero hesitation that it outperforms a HomePod, and by a good bit.  I’d say that if someone wants a higher end single speaker, smart or not, and doesn’t mind spending a bit more, then the Move is a great choice, even at its premium price.  

 

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sonosg Of course you are spot on! 
I guess what I was trying to say is that the two products are intended for two different audiences / use cases.

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To me the comparison with the HomePod doesn’t make sense.

Sonos, especially the Five / Play:5 is targeted at the classic Hi-fi music listeners, who want to listen to their music with ease and be able to wirelessly have whole house audio.

The HomePod is more like a background or blast loud speaker for the younger crowd, not for the music listener.

I think most music enthusiasts do not accept the “bounced off the wall” music effect HomePod generates - hence they would much prefer a Five.

The comparison makes sense, that is what gave you the information to reach your conclusion.  For you and your needs.

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To me the comparison with the HomePod doesn’t make sense.

Sonos, especially the Five / Play:5 is targeted at the classic Hi-fi music listeners, who want to listen to their music with ease and be able to wirelessly have whole house audio.

The HomePod is more like a background or blast loud speaker for the younger crowd, not for the music listener.

I think most music enthusiasts do not accept the “bounced off the wall” music effect HomePod generates - hence they would much prefer a Five.

I’m not going to debate HomePod vs 5 here since this isn’t the place for it especially for people who haven’t had both and your characterization of what reviews say isn’t accurate.

 

 

Well, you’re the one who made the claim...

New customers looking for a bluetooth speaker aren’t going to spend $399 when there are so many other options.  

 

 

No, they are not, but the Move isn’t just a bluetooth speaker.    I think it will appeal to those looking at higher end BT speakers, and get further drawn in by it’s WiFi side.   And yes, a lot of buyers are going to be Sonos customers who are drawn to the multiple uses of it.