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If you look at how far apart the left and right speakers are on both you’ll see there isnt much difference. I think the only way you’ll notice a difference is when you play atmos content and thats it. Those side firing speakers dont work when you have rear speakers attached.

 

Whatever.  I’ll bow out of this now.  I’m not arguing over the performance of a unit that no one has even seen or heard.  

 

By same drivers I mean same sized speakers same class d amps… beam has 4 drivers that cover front LR and center, ARC has 4 drivers from front LR and center with additional side and upfiring drivers that will only make a difference when atmos is working? My question is how would it sound better or bigger when playing 5.1 content and using a sub and rear speakers with both the systems?

 

For one, the Arc is almost twice as wide as the Beam, giving a wider soundstage. 

 

If you look at how far apart the left and right speakers are on both you’ll see there isnt much difference. I think the only way you’ll notice a difference is when you play atmos content and thats it. Those side firing speakers dont work when you have rear speakers attached.

 

Not sure where you’re getting your information from, but I believe I’ve read Sonos stating that the side speakers are working when in 5.1.  And if that’s the case, why would you think the side firing speakers on the Beam are working for 5.1?  Taking another angle, the playbar clearly sounds better than the Beam.  You’re saying Sonos took a step back for 5.1 audio with the Arc?  This doesn’t add up.  I’ll go ahead and try it out for myself, or someone else who’s heard the two soundbars.

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Hi everyone, I will be replacing my Beam with the Arc in our family room.  I have the Beam power cord fished through the wall adjacent to the fire place and I am hoping the Arc uses the same power cord so I don’t have to run that through the wall again?  Thanks!

Similar question, can I repurpose the power cord from my Playbar or do I need to run a new cable?

 

Thanks!

@dssss and @lovetractor, the Playbar uses a different power cable than the Beam and Arc, but the Beam power cable I believe is the same one. The connection looks to be the same but I’ll check with the team on the rating and will let you know if it’s different in some meaningful way.

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I have the same question; and have looked for a response on this - but don’t see one.  Was this question ever answered?

Thanks!

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By same drivers I mean same sized speakers same class d amps… beam has 4 drivers that cover front LR and center, ARC has 4 drivers from front LR and center with additional side and upfiring drivers that will only make a difference when atmos is working? My question is how would it sound better or bigger when playing 5.1 content and using a sub and rear speakers with both the systems?

 

For one, the Arc is almost twice as wide as the Beam, giving a wider soundstage. 

 

If you look at how far apart the left and right speakers are on both you’ll see there isnt much difference. I think the only way you’ll notice a difference is when you play atmos content and thats it. Those side firing speakers dont work when you have rear speakers attached.

 

The woofers are different between the Beam and the Arc, but based on a similar design and are an evolution from what we created for Beam. The tweeters are the same as the tweeter in Beam, but use different wave guides. Which all may be more technical than you’re looking for. 

If it helps, I have both, and the Arc sounds way bigger, louder, and better than the Beam. But you won’t have to take my word for it, read the reviews as they come out and you can see what people think of the sound.

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Hi everyone, I will be replacing my Beam with the Arc in our family room.  I have the Beam power cord fished through the wall adjacent to the fire place and I am hoping the Arc uses the same power cord so I don’t have to run that through the wall again?  Thanks!

Similar question, can I repurpose the power cord from my Playbar or do I need to run a new cable?

 

Thanks!

@dssss and @lovetractor, the Playbar uses a different power cable than the Beam and Arc, but the Beam power cable I believe is the same one. The connection looks to be the same but I’ll check with the team on the rating and will let you know if it’s different in some meaningful way.

Hi -

I have the same question; and have looked for a response on this - but don’t see one.  Was this question ever answered?

Thanks!

I checked and there wasn’t a difference in the power cord between the Beam and the Arc, they’re using the same cable. 

Hi guys

Have looked everywhere for a solution regarding the Sonos ARC, Projector (non-eARC), getting Dolby Atmos, APPLETV 4K inbetween etc, you all know the issue…. Talked to HDFURY who has premium “expensive” HDMI devices. They say that there are nothing “in the world” which can fix the problem, BUT they will have a solution end of year… Hurrraaa…  

Hi guys

Have looked everywhere for a solution regarding the Sonos ARC, Projector (non-eARC), getting Dolby Atmos, APPLETV 4K inbetween etc, you all know the issue…. Talked to HDFURY who has premium “expensive” HDMI devices. They say that there are nothing “in the world” which can fix the problem, BUT they will have a solution end of year… Hurrraaa…  

One of these, modified so the audio is output over ARC/eARC instead of a conventional HDMI would, I think, fit the bill.

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Hi guys

Have looked everywhere for a solution regarding the Sonos ARC, Projector (non-eARC), getting Dolby Atmos, APPLETV 4K inbetween etc, you all know the issue…. Talked to HDFURY who has premium “expensive” HDMI devices. They say that there are nothing “in the world” which can fix the problem, BUT they will have a solution end of year… Hurrraaa…  


Well that’s progress, when I spoke to them a week ago they had nothing in the pipeline.

 

I also spoke to SC&T who made the ARC01 adapter, which they no longer mass produce and sold out. But they replied today that they also have a team checking on development possibility for an adapter that supports eARC between for example the Apple TV and Sonos Arc, so I’m feeling more positive there will be both premium and cheaper solutions for this problem coming up. Hopefully soon!

It’s an interesting conundrum. All of these HDMI switches we’ve been talking about for months either strip the audio stream and pass it to the optical output, or take the HDMI ARC from the TV, and send that out via optical. The new device needs to actually have the electronics in it to create the eARC signal, not just pass it back from the TV. It’s a whole new level of device. And one I don’t expect to be anywhere near as cheap as the current HDMI switches. Something closer in cost to what ratty linked to, or even higher. And I’m not even sure if there are any licensing fees involved for that, probably just part of the chip cost, since it’s not a codec in itself, just a transport method.

The ARC01 referred to above is/was able to generate an ARC signal, but only for S/PDIF input.  

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It’s an interesting conundrum. All of these HDMI switches we’ve been talking about for months either strip the audio stream and pass it to the optical output, or take the HDMI ARC from the TV, and send that out via optical. The new device needs to actually have the electronics in it to create the eARC signal, not just pass it back from the TV. It’s a whole new level of device. And one I don’t expect to be anywhere near as cheap as the current HDMI switches. Something closer in cost to what ratty linked to, or even higher. And I’m not even sure if there are any licensing fees involved for that, probably just part of the chip cost, since it’s not a codec in itself, just a transport method.

Now this is strictly guesswork but I’m betting HDfury will solve this in something more like an updated Vertex2 priced around $400. Seems reasonable for the tech needed to do all the magic in actually decode/encode the signal, possibly even convert the signal into a format the soundbar speaks. Might sound expensive but I’m guessing IF my projector had the functionality built in I would have payed way more for it.

 

By same drivers I mean same sized speakers same class d amps… beam has 4 drivers that cover front LR and center, ARC has 4 drivers from front LR and center with additional side and upfiring drivers that will only make a difference when atmos is working? My question is how would it sound better or bigger when playing 5.1 content and using a sub and rear speakers with both the systems?

 

For one, the Arc is almost twice as wide as the Beam, giving a wider soundstage. 

 

If you look at how far apart the left and right speakers are on both you’ll see there isnt much difference. I think the only way you’ll notice a difference is when you play atmos content and thats it. Those side firing speakers dont work when you have rear speakers attached.

 

The woofers are different between the Beam and the Arc, but based on a similar design and are an evolution from what we created for Beam. The tweeters are the same as the tweeter in Beam, but use different wave guides. Which all may be more technical than you’re looking for. 

If it helps, I have both, and the Arc sounds way bigger, louder, and better than the Beam. But you won’t have to take my word for it, read the reviews as they come out and you can see what people think of the sound.

Thanks for your input Ryan. I’m very interested in what TV you are using.  Considering only a handful of TV’s have e-ARC, do you have one of those? And if so, which one?

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Thanks for your input Ryan. I’m very interested in what TV you are using.  Considering only a handful of TV’s have e-ARC, do you have one of those? And if so, which one?

I have a TCL Roku TV that doesn’t have eARC, but via HDMI ARC I get Atmos from Dolby Digital Plus content.

Thanks for your input Ryan. I’m very interested in what TV you are using.  Considering only a handful of TV’s have e-ARC, do you have one of those? And if so, which one?

I have a TCL Roku TV that doesn’t have eARC, but via HDMI ARC I get Atmos from Dolby Digital Plus content.

Thanks Ryan. This is helpful. I’m assuming you’re using the native Roku app on the tcl to stream Atmos content versus using a third-party box such as Apple TV 4K?

 

By same drivers I mean same sized speakers same class d amps… beam has 4 drivers that cover front LR and center, ARC has 4 drivers from front LR and center with additional side and upfiring drivers that will only make a difference when atmos is working? My question is how would it sound better or bigger when playing 5.1 content and using a sub and rear speakers with both the systems?

 

For one, the Arc is almost twice as wide as the Beam, giving a wider soundstage. 

 

If you look at how far apart the left and right speakers are on both you’ll see there isnt much difference. I think the only way you’ll notice a difference is when you play atmos content and thats it. Those side firing speakers dont work when you have rear speakers attached.

 

The woofers are different between the Beam and the Arc, but based on a similar design and are an evolution from what we created for Beam. The tweeters are the same as the tweeter in Beam, but use different wave guides. Which all may be more technical than you’re looking for. 

If it helps, I have both, and the Arc sounds way bigger, louder, and better than the Beam. But you won’t have to take my word for it, read the reviews as they come out and you can see what people think of the sound.

Can you tell us when reviews for the Arc will be released?  Definitely looking forward to reading the opinions that will be out there.    

Can I use sonos symfonisk as a pair of our surround for the the new sonos arc?

Can I use sonos symfonisk as a pair of our surround for the the new sonos arc?

 

yes

Hi, I currently own a Home Theatre setup with a Playbar, Sub and a couple of Play:1’s. On our current app, there is no way on adding a couple of other Play:1’s or One’s for aiming towards a 7.1 setup.

Will the ARC be 7.1 capable with the new App? Or what will happen if the audio source is TrueHD 7.1 + ATMOS or DD+ 7.1 + ATMOS? Will the audio be downgraded automatically to 5.1 and retain ATMOS metadata for truly playing Dolby ATMOS? Thanks!

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Hi @djviko, the side and rear surround audio channels of a 7.1 signal are sent to the rear speakers in that configuration. It’s officially a 5.1.2 setup, but the side surround channels aren’t discarded.  

Hi @djviko, the side and rear surround audio channels of a 7.1 signal are sent to the rear speakers in that configuration. It’s officially a 5.1.2 setup, but the side surround channels aren’t discarded.  

Thanks a lot Ryan, that makes sense… Can´t wait for Arc to be available in Mexico to purchase it :D 

Hi,

 

I have a question about trying to get Atmos to the ARC via apple TV or other means. My television doesn't have e-ARC, but I was wondering if I could use a HDMI splitter to connect the Apple TV to both the TV set and the ARC - sending the atoms signal to the arc and the picture to the TV.

Any advice welcome,

Thanks

Hi,

 

I have a question about trying to get Atmos to the ARC via apple TV or other means. My television doesn't have e-ARC, but I was wondering if I could use a HDMI splitter to connect the Apple TV to both the TV set and the ARC - sending the atoms signal to the arc and the picture to the TV.

Any advice welcome,

Thanks

It would likely work, but that’s if you can find an audio extractor/splitter which supports Dolby Digital MAT/DolbyTrueHD Atmos and DD+ Atmos and has an HDMI-eARC port… I’ve been looking and can only seem to find one that has HDMI-ARC support.

Something ‘similar’ to this (perhaps🤔?), but with HDMI-eARC support …

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tendak-Switcher-Optical-Toslink-Extractor/dp/B07YD2CLMY/ref=sr_1_9

...and support for the Dolby atmos codecs mentioned in my post above.

Hi,

 

I have a question about trying to get Atmos to the ARC via apple TV or other means. My television doesn't have e-ARC, but I was wondering if I could use a HDMI splitter to connect the Apple TV to both the TV set and the ARC - sending the atoms signal to the arc and the picture to the TV.

Any advice welcome,

Thanks

It would likely work, but that’s if you can find an audio extractor/splitter which supports Dolby Digital MAT/DolbyTrueHD Atmos and DD+ Atmos and has an HDMI-eARC port… I’ve been looking and can only seem to find one that has HDMI-ARC support.

 

Thanks for the reply.

Having read back a few pages it seems there are lots of people searching for a solution to similar things.

I just want to understand what other hardware I could incorporate into my setup (other than a new TV) to get Atmos to the Arc. There must be some way to workaround this?!

It would likely work, but that’s if you can find an audio extractor/splitter which supports Dolby Digital MAT/DolbyTrueHD Atmos and DD+ Atmos and has an HDMI-eARC port… I’ve been looking and can only seem to find one that has HDMI-ARC support.

Nobody, to my knowledge, has yet found an audio extractor with an HDMI-ARC port which can strip audio from another HDMI input.

There are devices which can take audio from an S/PDIF and push it out the ARC port; there are some able to take ARC already generated by a TV and pass it through. Neither does what’s required here.

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