Introducing Trueplay and the New PLAY:5

  • 29 September 2015
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Today we’re excited to announce our newest product, the all new PLAY:5. The original PLAY:5 still sounds great and we’ve upgraded it in almost every way.

The new PLAY:5 has our best sounding player yet. It's got six synchronized, custom-designed drivers, each with its own Class-D amp, and three mid-woofers for mid-range frequencies. There’s also a touch interface for convenient play/pause, volume adjustment, and changing tracks with a swipe. The new PLAY:5 also has six internal antennas, for the best wifi in any orientation. Find out more about the new PLAY:5 here: http://blog.sonos.com/news/meet-trueplay-and-the-all-new-play5/. We know you’ll love it as soon as you have the chance to hear it.

Along with the new PLAY:5, we will be launching an exciting new software development we call Trueplay. This is a speaker tuning software above and beyond basic equalization options which uses the Sonos software on an iOS controller to adjust your speakers to deliver great sound in any room of your home.

Finally, in the next few days, we’ll be introducing HLS streaming for the BBC via an update to our public beta for Sonos version 6.0. We’ll post a separate announcement with information here when the next public beta update is available.

The new PLAY:5 and Trueplay will be available later this year, and you can sign up here to be notified when the PLAY:5 is available for purchase: http://www.sonos.com/new-play-5-smart-speaker

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thank you for the quick answer!
I don't think they ruin the design at all... they are small enough to not even be noticed. But, poking at mine, they appear to be rubber and can be pulled out, but that will leave little holes I'm sure you won't be happy with either.
i am considering buying the new Play5. Can you actually remove the little bumper to support the speakers vertically? i hope so, as they completely ruin the design.
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The second link is broken, Ryan.

Thanks, it should be fixed now.
The second link is broken, Ryan.
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The Trueplay software release, version 6.0 is now available. See more details on the release here.

Once you've setup Trueplay and done some testing we'd love to hear what you think here.
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Looking forward to this, thank goodness my friends and I with Sonos have Apple kit! Sonos setup already sound great, but better is always good! And for free! New 5's on order too!
Having standardised on 1 units where play units are concerned, this is good news that I hope to listen to later today.

I am not sure that software that reduces differences in sound quality between the lowest priced player and those above it was a design objective though!

Maybe the new 5 units will increase the gap again when the built in mikes are put to use in future.
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In my testing I found the Play:5 in a larger room to be somewhat better with trueplay but nothing major. The Play:1 it is night and day. Play:3 pretty noticeable.
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Amun - yes that should work.

Those who have pulled apart the new Play:5 say that there are 2 microphones in the new play:5. Curiousity is can new speakers at some point just calibrate themselves. That seems like where Sonos may go.
From everything I heard the microphones on android vary way to much between models and within models. For android to be implemented they will need a way to calibrate each microphone individually which I don't think is in the horizon anytime soon. Best borrow an iPhone as your wait may be very long.

Surely most devices will accept a cheap plug in headphone/mic... isn't what they do with wired earpiece/mic combinations for phones? So Sonos could easily supply a cheap mic that would plug into any device - doesn't really matter about the quality, as long as their software sees it as a known profile.
[Buy a cheap IPhone (Best check which OS you need) and Install the Sonos app. Or, get a friend who has an IPhone or Ipad to pop round.

I bought an iPod Touch to control my Sonos, which Sonos now no longer support - so I'm hardly likely to buy any more Apple kit...
AFAIA, none of my friends own Apple kit - not if they've listened to me, any way :8

Never mind - I was just hoping that there'd be an easy way of improving the sound from my Play5...
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From everything I heard the microphones on android vary way to much between models and within models. For android to be implemented they will need a way to calibrate each microphone individually which I don't think is in the horizon anytime soon. Best borrow an iPhone as your wait may be very long.
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Just to clarify :-


ii) if it does work with older units, do we have any idea (or even a vague plan) of when a mic solution for non-iOS users will be available?


No. We don't know even if Sonos will support it. You would have a couple of options. Buy a cheap IPhone (Best check which OS you need) and Install the Sonos app. Or, get a friend who has an IPhone or Ipad to pop round. Have them download and install the Sonos app and then tune your speakers. It only needs to be re-done if you move the speakers and takes maybe 2 minutes per speaker (or stereo pair)
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Actually it can make a big difference especially on he play:1. Yes it depends on your room and placement of speaker. If you have a room fairly good acoustically and speaker is placed in middle of room there may not be a lot of correction. I guess you will find out soon enough.
For more on Trueplay effects see:
https://en.community.sonos.com/wireless-speakers-228992/play5-gen-2-review-and-true-play-6732683/index1.html#post15978583
The idea is it will sound more "accurate", ie more like what the engineer heard in the studio, whether people think that's "better" is entirely a matter of personal taste, a lot of people seem to find comfort in hugely overblown, flabby bass. I suspect those people will be disappointed.
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I'm just wondering how effective it will be. A comment in a previous post said "As far as Trueplay is concerned, it will absolutely make a more noticeable difference in some homes over other".

Somehow I'm not expecting a huge difference. And will it sound any better, or just different? We will find out tomorrow!
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Just to clarify :-

i) will Trueplay work on all existing Sonos devices, presumably with a software update, or will it only work with the new Play5 and beyond?
ii) if it does work with older units, do we have any idea (or even a vague plan) of when a mic solution for non-iOS users will be available?


i) Trueplay will work with Play 1, Play 3, Play 5 and new Play 5
ii) no, there is no indication when this may be possible. For correct calibration, the sound profile of the mic must be known. Apple have a limited number of devices available across their range so this is relatively easy. Android devices can be made by hundreds of different manufacturers and quite possible different mics even within the same product range depending on age etc so the possibilities are endless. Could be a while !
Just to clarify :-

i) will Trueplay work on all existing Sonos devices, presumably with a software update, or will it only work with the new Play5 and beyond?
ii) if it does work with older units, do we have any idea (or even a vague plan) of when a mic solution for non-iOS users will be available?
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just received a mail regarding IOS compatibility that Sonos 6.0 release (with Trueplay) will be available as of tomorrow, 10 Nov
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heres a review with some curvy things !
http://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2015/10/sonos-play5-review-the-best-sounding-wireless-speaker-system-weve-ever-used/


Thanks for sharing Nick, that's great review with curvy things!

The physical volume and play/pause buttons have been ditched, in favour of capacitive ones that light up. While that might ring alarm bells for anyone into who's had a cat brush up against an Xbox 360 in the middle of a heated Halo game, the buttons aren't overly sensitive. Sadly, though, I can't confirm whether they're actually cat-proof.


Funny story, this is something that we've been looking into for a while. There was a significant part of the internal hardware beta looking for employees with cats just to test if this would be an issue. There's been a long standing observation (I can't quite call it a problem) where pets find Sonos players to be warm and comfortable perches, at times causing players to start playing in the middle of the night by pressing the buttons on top. The new PLAY:5 went through what testing was possible to try and minimize undesired, pet-caused audio playback. We'll see how the world-wide cat population behaves with their new sonic housemates.

As far as Trueplay is concerned, it will absolutely make a more noticeable difference in some homes over others, it's all about the acoustics in your rooms and where the units are positioned. Even if it only makes a subtile change, it may be a positive change nonetheless, and of course, if you don't like the way it sounds for some reason, you will always have the option of turning Trueplay off. Though we don't expect that to happen much.

We can't wait to hear what you all have to say about the new PLAY:5 and Trueplay when you have the chance to try them out.
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Many listeners don't like "flat" response, they prefer more bass or treble. I'm not criticizing the listener, only making an observation. For this type of listener, Trueplay is not a very useful feature.

For the "flat" fans, I hope that reviewers publish some curves -- along with a discussion about what the curves imply. Trueplay improves an already remarkably smooth response.


heres a review with some curvy things !
http://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2015/10/sonos-play5-review-the-best-sounding-wireless-speaker-system-weve-ever-used/
Many listeners don't like "flat" response, they prefer more bass or treble. I'm not criticizing the listener, only making an observation. For this type of listener, Trueplay is not a very useful feature.

For the "flat" fans, I hope that reviewers publish some curves -- along with a discussion about what the curves imply. Trueplay improves an already remarkably smooth response.


Stereophile, unfortunately, isn't going to measure "lifestyle" speakers. Hopefully Brent Butterworth will review and measure them, as he did the Play:1.

http://stereos.about.com/od/Wireless/fl/Review-Sonos-Play1.htm
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Trueplay is designed to compensate for acoustical properties of the room each player it is placed in. Some rooms absorb high frequencies, some rooms reflect too much bass, etc.. Trueplay Tuning gives each player a flatter 'default' tonal quality relative to the room it is placed in, which can then be further fine tuned with the bass, treble and loudness controls that already exist to suit your personal preference. Obviously everyone's Opinion varies, but in my experience I feel Trueplay tuning makes each player's baseline response sound brighter and clearer overall. Once tuning has been completed, it can be switched on and off with the difference noticeable immediately.