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So the online reviews and others comments on the same issue are all hearing things? Could this amp not have default settings of some sort that are boosting the high end too much?

Other than defective units and/or out of phase wiring, there is no reason or excuse for this kind of behaviour, assuming also that the default position of all the EQ settings is flat, ie, in the centre positions.
The controller knows what devices are present. If it detects a mix, it pops up the note when forcing an index. It loads what it can in the older and stops (like it does today) and it keeps going in the newer.
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So the online reviews and others comments on the same issue are all hearing things? Could this amp not have default settings of some sort that are boosting the high end too much?

Other than defective units and/or out of phase wiring, there is no reason or excuse for this kind of behaviour, assuming also that the default position of all the EQ settings is flat, ie, in the centre positions.

I can report that I'm hearing no difference in tonality of the Sonos Amp versus the Connect:Amp. Note that I'm not using a subwoofer in either case, however. Certainly no hint of it being 'bright'.
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I have 5 old connect amp in my house.
I always looked with interest at Trueplay feature builtin sonos speaker...
Will Trueplay be available also for new Sonos Amp ?
I will change my old Connect:amp for the new one if this feature will be available ! ?

Thanks
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My experience has been that AMP sounds better (to me) than CONNECT:AMP. I have seen a few reports of disappointing initial results from AMP that were resolved after rebooting. Make sure that the speakers are wired in phase. In my opinion it is too easy to connect the speakers out of phase.

I'm not sure what out of phase means. I took banana plugs straight out old amp and into the sonos amp. This should be okay?

I'll try rebooting just in case.
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Will Trueplay be available also for new Sonos Amp ?
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I asked this earlier in the thread. No answer from a Sonos rep yet. Bueller?
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I'm not sure what out of phase means. I took banana plugs straight out old amp and into the sonos amp. This should be okay?
It just means that the ‘red/black’ connections are reversed to one of the speakers compared to the other. This means that the left and right speakers will cancel each other out to some extent, instead of reinforcing the sound.
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What does this mean for us that have a few of the older connect amps ...... Are they going to go the same way as the CR-100 controller did in a few months time ?
“Phase” involves the +/- markings on the speaker. At the instant one connects a battery to the speaker’s terminals, the cone will jump towards or away from the basket (the metal part). By convention, when the cone jumps out, the (+) terminal of the battery is connected to the speaker terminal that should be marked (+) and is often marked with a red band. The (+) terminal of the speaker should be connected to the (+) terminal of the amplifier.

A speaker is “out of phase” when it’s +/- connections do not match other speaker connections in the system.

In my battery test above, you can think of a positive pressure wave created as the speaker cone jumps out and a negative pressure wave created when the battery is connected backwards. When connected to an amplifier, a speaker cone will follow the signal, creating positive and negative pressure — sound waves. If one of the speaker connections in a system is reversed (out of phase), its positive pressure wave tends to be cancelled by the negative pressure wave generated by the other speaker(s). This cancellation is not perfect and some sound will still be emitted, but cancellation is more complete for the bass notes. If cancellation was perfect, no sound would be delivered into the room. Hence, our suggestion to check speaker phasing when bass suffers after changing connections or amplifiers.
Unlikely. The CR100 lasted for many years past when it stopped being sold, I’d expect the current CONNCT:AMP to do the same, when they decide to stop selling it.
What does this mean for us that have a few of the older connect amps ...... Are they going to go the same way as the CR-100 controller did in a few months time ?

The ZP100 is 13 years old and still operational. I doubt the Connect:Amp will go before that.
Now that Amp is released to the general public does anyone know when the optical to HDMI-ARC adapter will be available in the Australian store.

Support sent me one when I contacted them. I'd recommend calling because the online chat rep said all I could do was sign up for the newsletter and wait. Did't get directed to the phone support until I had posted a grizzle about that on Sonos' Facebook page.

Now I'm trying to resolve my next issue: the IR remote sensor only works when the remote is within 20cm of the Amp. There is at least one other person with this issue in another thread. Hopefully it isn't a common defect.
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No real reason for the older ZonePlayers to go that I've seen, Sonos seems to be doing a pretty good job of keeping them playing even with their limited abilities. At some point you mat see some functions that they used to support dropped as other functions are thought to be more useful, as was done with the CR-100 before support ended. Once that starts happening, that is the time to start thinking end of life.

Given that both my legacy stereo systems are also 10 plus years old I may well not be so unhappy when both pack it in, I already have Sonos speakers in both rooms that see 90% of my listening as it is just easier and the sound is plenty good enough. The only thing I'd me missing are the fancy 5.1 channel decoders that the legacy gear offers.
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As you see in the screenshot - it is possible to add a sonos beam in the room to get true 5.1 without simulating the center channel via the amp.

Do you think he meant like this? Because I cannot find any documentation that shows that the beam can be used as a center channel?
What does this mean for us that have a few of the older connect amps ...... Are they going to go the same way as the CR-100 controller did in a few months time ?Don't confuse discontinuing sales of a product with obsolescence. The CR100 itself had been off the shelves for nearly 10 years before it could no longer keep up.
As you see in the screenshot - it is possible to add a sonos beam in the room to get true 5.1 without simulating the center channel via the amp.

Do you think he meant like this? Because I cannot find any documentation that shows that the beam can be used as a center channel?
The Beam cannot be used as a centre channel only. It can be used to provide the front three channels. That set up can be combined with rears of Play:1, Play:3, Play:5 gen 2 or Connect:Amp; my understanding is that you can add the new Amp to that list.

Another possible set up will be to use the new Amp to provide L & R front speakers (playing the content of the front three, but just through L & R. Plus same options as above for rears. No Beam involved.
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As you see in the screenshot - it is possible to add a sonos beam in the room to get true 5.1 without simulating the center channel via the amp.

Do you think he meant like this? Because I cannot find any documentation that shows that the beam can be used as a center channel?
The Beam cannot be used as a centre channel only. It can be used to provide the front three channels. That set up can be combined with rears of Play:1, Play:3, Play:5 gen 2 or Connect:Amp; my understanding is that you can add the new Amp to that list.

Another possible set up will be to use the new Amp to provide L & R front speakers (playing the content of the front three, but just through L & R. Plus same options as above for rears. No Beam involved.


But in the chat the sonos support mentioned that a beam can be included as a center channel for true 5.1?
As you see in the screenshot - it is possible to add a sonos beam in the room to get true 5.1 without simulating the center channel via the amp.

Do you think he meant like this? Because I cannot find any documentation that shows that the beam can be used as a center channel?
The Beam cannot be used as a centre channel only. It can be used to provide the front three channels. That set up can be combined with rears of Play:1, Play:3, Play:5 gen 2 or Connect:Amp; my understanding is that you can add the new Amp to that list.

Another possible set up will be to use the new Amp to provide L & R front speakers (playing the content of the front three, but just through L & R. Plus same options as above for rears. No Beam involved.


But in the chat the sonos support mentioned that a beam can be included as a center channel for true 5.1?
I think you are misinterpreting the text. I don't see anywhere it says that. The choice of the word 'standalone' is perhaps unfortunate, but doesn't mean single channel. The Beam, emphatically, cannot be used for centre channel only, and to the best of my knowledge there is no indication that this is planned.
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This is sad - beacuse this would be the ultimate setup.

I dont understand why this is not supported - i would buy an additional amp for this usecase.
Now I will not - I think a lot of people will think like me
Mamba82,

I agree with John, the text is quite clear that the Beam is providing the 3.0 front channels and that you can then either add an Amp/Play:1/3/5's, or Sonos Ones, as the two rear surrounds to it, to turn it into a 5.0 setup, or a 5.1 System, if you also decide to add a sub.

Whilst I would like to see a central channel speaker and 4 satellites (plus sub) myself, there is no such Sonos setup at the moment ... two Amps can create a 4.1 setup with a 'phantom' centre channel too, but that’s as close as things can get at the moment, when it comes to Sonos TV Surround Sound.

I use the Beam and two Play:1 rear surrounds in my Dining Room and I am very pleased with the 5.0 sound that it provides in that room. There’s plenty of noticeable channel separation and Bass (even without a sub) for my modest sized room, that seats 8 to 10 people around a table.
I have 5 old connect amp in my house.
I always looked with interest at Trueplay feature builtin sonos speaker...
Will Trueplay be available also for new Sonos Amp ?
I will change my old Connect:amp for the new one if this feature will be available ! ?

Thanks
Emanuele


I don't think Sonos has announced anything about this, but my guess is that trueplay will eventually be available on Sonoace speakers designed to work with Sonos. Although I know that other brands having tuning processes that don't really depend on the passive speakers used, I'm guessing that Sonos wants to know the makeup of the specific speakers in order to trueplay correctly...or something of that nature.

As a side note, I'd also guess that the Sonoace speakers will better match the sound of Sonos brand speakers, then passive speakers from other manufacturers.
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Will Trueplay be available also for new Sonos Amp ? Emanuele

I asked this earlier in the thread. No answer from a Sonos rep yet. Bueller?


Trueplay will be available for some setups with the Sonos Amp, such as using it as the surround speakers with a Playbar, Playbase, or Beam. You'll also be able to use Trueplay with the Sonance speakers we're partnering together to develop.

What does this mean for us that have a few of the older connect amps ...... Are they going to go the same way as the CR-100 controller did in a few months time ?Don't confuse discontinuing sales of a product with obsolescence. The CR100 itself had been off the shelves for nearly 10 years before it could no longer keep up.
With the introduction of the new Sonos Amp, we will no longer be selling the Connect:Amp. We will continue to support Connect:Amp through ongoing software updates as part of the Sonos system for the many people who already have one at home.
Trueplay will be available for some setups with the Sonos Amp, such as using it as the surround speakers with a Playbar, Playbase, or Beam. You'll also be able to use Trueplay with the Sonance speakers we're partnering together to develop.


Nice. On the first part, does that include an HT setup invovled 2 Sonos Amps as well? For the Sonance speakers, will trueplay be available on outdoor speakers as well? I have no idea if trueplay can be done outdoors, if that's even a logical question. I'd also assume trueplay will not function correctly if you wire 2 pair of speakers to one Amp.
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...does that include an HT setup invovled 2 Sonos Amps as well?
As of right now, it will not. If the Sonance speakers are in use in the front and back, it may be able to, but we're still working out all the details on that.

For the Sonance speakers, will trueplay be available on outdoor speakers as well? I have no idea if trueplay can be done outdoors, if that's even a logical question. I'd also assume trueplay will not function correctly if you wire 2 pair of speakers to one Amp.
Trueplay should be working the best it can outside as well, but again, we're still working out all the details. We'll be able to share more information later as things become available.
Hi, Sonos community

I have a Sonos home theater set up playbar+2 play 5’s+ Sub; would I be able to add more to my set up using the amp?