Exciting Partnerships in the Queue

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We have a lot of exciting plans for the future and we wanted to share some of them with you all. First, check out Patrick Spence's post on the Sonic Internet here: http://blog.sonos.com/en/welcome-sonic-internet/
In addition to our Sonos One, coming October 24th, and support for Alexa through Alexa devices, we’ve been hard at work on some great new partnerships as well.

We’re excited to announce that Sonos is bringing Airplay 2 to our platform, available next spring. You will be able to play from devices in your Apple ecosystem – including content from YouTube and Netflix - now on your Sonos players. You will also have the ability to talk to Siri-enabled devices (iPhone, iPad, AppleTV) to play music on your Sonos speakers. We’re not sharing all the details around this integration yet as there’s still work to be done, but we hope you’re excited too. We’ll share more soon, so watch this space.

The Sonos Developer Platform is also coming in 2018. We will be officially opening a developer platform, and deliver APIs to any developer who wants to integrate with Sonos. We'll also be rolling out a certification program so the highest quality experiences will have the ability to earn the “Works with Sonos” badge. You’ll start seeing some exciting home automation options out there with our official badge, marking them as partners and certifying their API integration.

We know you’ve loved using your Spotify App to control Sonos and we’ve been working to bring that experience to more services. Starting in the coming months, we’ll be adding the ability to control Sonos directly from additional music service apps, including Tidal, Pandora, Audible and iHeart Radio.

We hope you're as excited as we are.
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I can’t wait. These are some exciting news. I also hope for an updated Sonos Playbar.
There are numerous threads on users asking for full integration with BBC radio, so that we can access the full range of content.

When will support for this be added?


I imagine the BBC app will be included in the Airplay 2 capabilities. As to when it will be incorporated into the Sonos app, that is up to the BBC to join the Sonos Music Partners program and develop with Sonos. So far, the BBC has not done this. Best to lobby both here and to the BBC for this feature.
There are numerous threads on users asking for full integration with BBC radio, so that we can access the full range of content.

When will support for this be added?
I'm afraid nobody knows the answer to those questions yet, and Somos isn't giving any details.
I have a 5.1 setup in the living room consisting of a Playbase, a SUB and two Play 1s. In addition I have four more Play 1s in four rooms.

The question is:

Will I be able to stream Airplay to a room with a Play 1 (through Playbase) and still use the Playbase for something else? In my case, let's say I'm watching TV in the living room and my wife streams Netflix to her iPad in the kitchen. Can she stream the audio to the Play 1 in the kitchen or does the Playbase also have to play this source at the same time?

If it's not the case, there's not much use of enabling Airplay support to Play 1s through newer devices since these have to be grouped to same output. In the practice it will be almost useless right?
Bose has had to redesign their entire line three times since launch because they cannot seem to get unreliable technologies like Bluetooth and Airplay 1 to work in a multi-room environment. I ask again, please Sonos, don't ever use Bluetooth.
Please Sonos, don't ever use Bluetooth.

The Bose SoundTouch is a wireless first system with the option for Bluetooth connectivity. Having the option to single out a speaker in the case that a service or device is not natively supported is very convenient and makes for a more versatile system.

I'm not saying that Bluetooth is the answer for Sonos, nor am I pushing the Bose system, though they are a leader and are knocking on Sonos door in this arena. All I ask is that they don't disappoint and continue to enhance their system to be more compatible with both services and devices.

As stated on their home page ... Sonos is the wireless Home Sound System that fills as many rooms as you want with great-sounding music, movies and TV. Stream via WiFi. Play whatever you’re craving. And amp up every moment with intense, pulse-pounding sound. ... I want to play whatever i'm craving.
Please Sonos, don't ever use Bluetooth.
You will be able to play from devices in your Apple ecosystem – including content from YouTube and Netflix - now on your Sonos players.

Just received my first Sonos ONE and I have the itch to add more, but second guessing whether this is the right system to invest $$$$ in if my family can't use the speaker(s) to listen to a Netflix/YouTube show on the iPad or stream audio from other mobile devices while playing a game, etc.! Why equip the home with a sound system that's limited to streaming music or bound to the couch in front of a soundbar?

I'm keeping a close eye on this development before I drop any more $$$$ with Sonos.

As much as i love my first Sonos, I'll be researching whether the Bose SoundTouch is the more flexible wireless home solution with Bluetooth connectivity built into every system.

Please Sonos, don't disappoint.
YouTube is available over Airplay 2 because it is streamed through the phone.
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What is meant by Ryan's initial post - specifically the YouTube mention in the first post - "You will be able to play from devices in your Apple ecosystem – including content from YouTube.."?
Oh Logan. :8
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They didn't just drop the ball on Audible, they've lead Sonos customers on for two years. Lied about repeatedly.

They promised voice control 18 months ago and so far have delivered a beta skill and hardware. I think they've done well but I think I'm in the minority with you given the huge amount of issues and the expectation of a polished product.

They also screwed up on direct control. Their CEO dismissed spotify connect back in 2012. Only recently realizing their error. Similar to their epiphany on voice control.

Are GPM, Apple Music, and Amazon Music using the SONOS music partner API? If so doesnt SONOS have no control over this so why give credit?
Everything on that list was promised and subsequently delivered on time. They dropped the ball on Audible, so they are batting .900. Rumor has it Spotify Alexa control works early. So criticize them all you like for bad support, bad UI, bad anything. Critcizing them for promising and not delivering is a losing cause.
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Wait until it is what you want. Don’t buy the promise because they are under no obligation to you to keep the promise of AirPlay 2 functionality on any timeline or at all.


Could you name one promise Sonos has made that was not followed through on?


They failed in their promise to deliver new audible support by the end of summer 2017.

Buy based on current function not future promise or you will be disappointed (all products not just Sonos)


Yup. Thats one. They have followed through on:

Google Play Music
Apple Music
Amazon Music
Trueplay
Spotify Direct Control
Pandora Direct Control
Alexa Control
Pandora Prime
Alexa enabled Sonos speaker

And while I wholeheartedly agree one should purchase Sonos for what it is, not what one wishes it to be, their track record on fulfilling promises makes them a pretty good bet.


Yes but how many years have passed?


Wait until it is what you want. Don’t buy the promise because they are under no obligation to you to keep the promise of AirPlay 2 functionality on any timeline or at all.


Could you name one promise Sonos has made that was not followed through on?


They failed in their promise to deliver new audible support by the end of summer 2017.

Buy based on current function not future promise or you will be disappointed (all products not just Sonos)


I was thinking Audible too but it wasn’t worth me looking it up because what I posted was sound advice.

Also, I’ve learned that when Sonos uses the word “soon,” it is never soon enough. Not that this applies to any statement they made about AirPlay 2.

I like Sonos. I just bought my first Play:5 today. However, I didn’t buy it because I expect it to be a native AirPlay 2 speaker.


Wait until it is what you want. Don’t buy the promise because they are under no obligation to you to keep the promise of AirPlay 2 functionality on any timeline or at all.


Could you name one promise Sonos has made that was not followed through on?


They failed in their promise to deliver new audible support by the end of summer 2017.

Buy based on current function not future promise or you will be disappointed (all products not just Sonos)


Yup. Thats one. They have followed through on:

Google Play Music
Apple Music
Amazon Music
Trueplay
Spotify Direct Control
Pandora Direct Control
Alexa Control
Pandora Prime
Alexa enabled Sonos speaker

And while I wholeheartedly agree one should purchase Sonos for what it is, not what one wishes it to be, their track record on fulfilling promises makes them a pretty good bet.


Wait until it is what you want. Don’t buy the promise because they are under no obligation to you to keep the promise of AirPlay 2 functionality on any timeline or at all.


Could you name one promise Sonos has made that was not followed through on?


No, I can’t name one promise Sonos has made that was not followed through on.
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Wait until it is what you want. Don’t buy the promise because they are under no obligation to you to keep the promise of AirPlay 2 functionality on any timeline or at all.


Could you name one promise Sonos has made that was not followed through on?


They failed in their promise to deliver new audible support by the end of summer 2017.

Buy based on current function not future promise or you will be disappointed (all products not just Sonos)


Wait until it is what you want. Don’t buy the promise because they are under no obligation to you to keep the promise of AirPlay 2 functionality on any timeline or at all.


Could you name one promise Sonos has made that was not followed through on?
Dumb question alert but I can't make out the answer from the thread so far. Sounds like there's the potential/probability for Airplay 2 abilities in Spring 2018. If I'm looking to get into the Sonos game should I wait until spring to buy a Sonos ONE or, if I buy one now (in Fall 2017) will it have that ability at this time (hardware-wise), once that functionality becomes possibly available in Spring? Thanks

Wait until it is what you want. Don’t buy the promise because they are under no obligation to you to keep the promise of AirPlay 2 functionality on any timeline or at all.
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Apparently this app does just that, though care in use is needed:-
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/sonosequencr/id967043604?mt=8
The fact sonos have not mentioned chromecasting, leads me to believe , like Alexa, it will be mainly intergration for google play music streaming.
Maybe 2019??
Will Sonos One support Google Cast in future.
The Sonos One will have Google Assistant, but we haven't gone into all the details there and if it'll include Google Cast. Stay tuned, we'll share more in the future as development goes on. We don't want to say too much before everything's ready.


I have four Play 1s in my house and I'm willing to upgrade to Ones if and only if they support Chromecasting. The amount of times I want to listen to a Podcast (on Pocketcasts) or an Audiobook or a show on iPlayer Radio or or or, you get my drift. Although I've spent a huge amount of money on my Sonos set-up I still have a bluetooth speaker to listen to Audiobooks and other catch-up shows.

Also it's a real shame that you won't be able to pair a One with a Play 1 or I'd only need to upgrade 2 of the 4.
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Will Sonos One support Google Cast in future.
The Sonos One will have Google Assistant, but we haven't gone into all the details there and if it'll include Google Cast. Stay tuned, we'll share more in the future as development goes on. We don't want to say too much before everything's ready.