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AjTrek1
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Sonos and Mesh Networks Can Play In The Same Sandbox

HIMesh Networks do work with Sonos as long as you choose components designed to work as a Mesh. Let me explain….The PRIMARY function of a Me...
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how to calculate how many speakers needed for outdoor space?

I am planning to get sonos speakers for outdoor area. I have a pool area and garden at a total of 5-7000 sqft. I was planning to get 1 amp w...
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Todd - SonosRetired Sonos Staff
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Sonos and the Spanning Tree Protocol

I wanted to post a few clarifications regarding SONOS and Spanning Tree Protocol that have been raised in this thread. SONOS ZonePlayers use 802.1D Spanning Tree (STP) for loop prevention between wired ZonePlayers and the wireless SonosNet Mesh Network. The Spanning Tree running on ZonePlayers is compliant with IEEE 802.1D and can inter-operate with other IEEE 802.1D and IEEE 802.1w compliant devices. Note: IEEE 802.1w is an updated version of the Spanning Tree protocol called Rapid Spanning Tree. The two types of STP protocols are compatible and 802.1w should revert to inter-operate with 802.1D devices (such as Sonos). Therefore, 802.1w Ethernet switches will work with Sonos ZonePlayers. SONOS ZonePlayers CAN be connected to Ethernet switches that do NOT support Spanning Tree as long as the Ethernet switches do not interfere with the STP BPDU packets transmitted between ZonePlayers. This is typically never the case and these switches pass the BPDU packets like any other packet.

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jishiHeadliner I
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Multiple subnets (vlans) and Sonos, workable Clavister solution

I just wanted to share my findings in this, since I have installed a Sonos system at work where we have a segmented vlan-separated network here, which we have locked down pretty hard. So this is what I have needed to do for opening up for Sonos, and the scenario is the following 4 vlans vlan 3, 4, 5 consists of desktop computers and wireless clients. vlan 6 is a guest network, fully open to internet, but has no regular access to anything else in the office (until now). I put the Sonos players on vlan6, to give them full access to internet. It is behind NAT. From computer/wireless (3-5) networks to vlan6: TCP port 1400 (Sonos control) From vlan 6 TO vlan3-5: TCP port 3400, 3500 (upnp events) UDP port 1900-1905 (upnp discovery returns) Now, the final piece of the puzzle was the multicast used for finding the players. We use a Clavister firewall, which support something they call SAT multiplex rules (other vendors might have similar functionality but call it something different)

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edwardkortizContributor I
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How to Fix Netgear Nighthawk Router Network Dropping WiFi Connection?

Netgear routers are one of the developing routers, but still, sometimes many users all around the globe face various technical glitches while using the Netgear Nighthawk router. Network dropping is one of the most common problems in the routers. The user fails to access the router during this error.The Netgear router network drop problem can occur because of many reasons. But in most of the cases, it took place due to some hardware problem. If you are facing the issue, then you do not need to be panic on this.Here in this particular blog section, we provide two easy and effective method to fix this problem.1. Netgear Nighthawk router firmware update2. Network driver updateSolution 1: Netgear Nighthawk Router Firmware UpdateThe problem of network dropping Wi-Fi connection can be easily fixed by just Netgear Router Firmware Update.Connect your Netgear router with your desktop or laptop with the help of an Ethernet cable. Once connected, open of your preferred web browser from your connec

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3 years ago
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aphContributor I
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Setting up Sonos with Eero WiFi system

I have had trouble getting my Sonos system to work for the past few months, since installing an Eero WiFi system, and I wanted to share what I learned so that I help others avoid the headaches and hassle. The problem: After installing a network of Eero WiFi devices (three eero Pro devices and one eero Beacon extender), my Sonos system stopped working reliably (would not connect, drop devices, etc.). I tried restarting, reinstalling units, etc., etc., without success. The solution: Over the past two weeks, I have read a number of posts on this Sonos support site that helped me get the system working again today. Here is what I did and some comments on my system: [list] [*]Enabled "Bridge Mode" on our Xfinity Wireless Gateway device -- got instructions on how to do so on the Comcast website (need to log in from your internet browser and follow a few steps) [*]Connected the eero Pro device that was indicated as the "gateway" (was the only device that my eero app showed as being the "g

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stevewoolleyContributor I
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Setting-Up SONOS on a Ubiquiti Wired/Wireless Network

Hi there, I've recently been encountering various issues with my Ubiquiti UniFi network where the signal just disappears for hours on end for no apparent reason. I decided to reset my Sonos system and set it up using my Sonos Bridge over SonosNet rather than on my home WiFi network to help reduce interference on the 2.4Ghz band. Primary reason for this was that my Sonos Controller on my iPhone would often tell me it could not find the Sonos players, despite all being on the network. Heres what I have: BT HomeHub 6 acting as DHCP server for entire network and VDSL Modem to my ISP (WiFi is turned OFF on this BT HomeHub6) Ubiquiti UniFi Switch 8 connected to BT HomeHub 6 providing PoE to 2 x Ubiquiti UniFi AP-AC-Pros (one upstairs, one downstairs) Sonos Bridge and various other streaming media devices (Panasonic TV, BT TV Box, XBOX) is also wired into my UniFi Switch 8 to provide a reliable wired network for the SonosNet base (Bridge) for other players to connect to I ha

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6 years ago
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Busta999Contributor I
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NEVER TRY TO RUN SONOS on a vlan with UNIFI

Ok after several weeks of this I can shareStart moan.While the idea that ALL iot devices should sit on an iot vlan SONOS resists that to its maximum. The iot vlan only has one basic change over a standard LAN in this instance (was planning on tightening up further later) was that ONLY the HOME network could open connections to the IOT vlan not the other way around. Changing the wifi  that Sonos uses is a a REAL PAIN INTHE ASS and you have to allow up to 2 hours per SONOS device to do it. It will require following instruction that do not work, Press and Hold these two buttons until you hear a chime, after 60 seconds no chime, start all over again. Connecting to SONOS wifi - failed move closer to device - ANY CLOSER and I would be INSIDE the SONOS. These games will go  one for a few hours - with 7 devices changing the WIFi took two days!!! It should NEVER be this hard. Once completed AIRPLAY & Alexa works great between networks but SONOS stubbornly refuses to work at all for playing

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mozart999ukTrending Lyricist I
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Readynas Duo v2

Hi. Am just planning out a sonos sytem. I'm planning to get a readynas duo and I'm assuming that as a few people have them on this forum they work ok as a NAS? A bit slow maybe but ok?

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janejContributor I
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Sonos on separate VLAN on unifi

I have read lots and lots of posts on this but many of them are old posts.  I have tried many things but still no luck.  I have my sonos boost wired to a port on my ubiguiti switch which is setup to use a separate VLAN than the rest of my network.  All my speakers are connected to the boost wireless through the Sonosnet.  After two very frustrating days of trying to get all the sonos stuff moved to the new VLAN, I finally called support.  The guy right away had me uncheck Multicast Enhancement and Multicast and Broadcast Control.  That seemed to work to get the speakers setup on the sonosnet with the boost and be visable from my iphone when on the same wireless network as the speakers.  However, if I am not on the same wireless network, the Sonos app cannot see the sonos system.  I have tried entering Firewall rules for various ports from all the threads that I have read but still nothing.  I am wondering if I have the Firewall rules setup correctly.  I am fairly new with unifi, so sti

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BingodogContributor I
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Connecting to Sonos system via Bluetooth

Hello - I have installed sonos system with amp and ceiling speakers and i want to be able to connect via Bluetooth instead of streaming over wifi

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Ken_Griffiths
8 months ago
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CalabogieTrending Lyricist I
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Sonos with Starlink Internet

Has anyone set up Sonos with Starlink internet yet?  Sounds like they don’t allow much customization on their router but it does do 2.4 and 5. Might be able to use your own router as well but rather use theirs if it works. I’ve found I have to force the 2.4 band to channel 6 to avoid interference. Might not be an option with Starlink router?

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Rob BroomContributor I
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Can the ERA 300 connect directly to a tv or virgin tv box

Hi all, Any idea if I can connect a single ERA 300 directly to my TV or Cable box to use as a sound bar. I all ready have several SONOS speakers including  a sound bar. I just like the idea of using the ERA as a stand aloan.

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Airgetlam
3 months ago
AjTrek1
AjTrek1
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Sonos and Mesh Networks Can Play In The Same Sandbox

HIMesh Networks do work with Sonos as long as you choose components designed to work as a Mesh. Let me explain….The PRIMARY function of a Mesh network is to extend the coverage of your Wi-Fi across your home wherein a single router fails to do so. A Mesh network properly configured should consist of a Primary Router (Main Node) connected to your ISP modem. If the ISP modem is a combo router/modem then it should be set to Bridge mode.The device or devices used to extend the network are called Satellites (Secondary Nodes). The nodes used to extend the network should be of the same brand/model designed to work as such for the best performance. The secondary nodes can be full blown routers themselves; but when used as secondary nodes cease to function in the same manner as the Main node. Devices of a different brand/model can be used as secondary nodes as long as they are certified for compatibility to be used as such with the brand of your Primary router/Main node. Think oranges and tange

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Marcin4k4ZdzirContributor I
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Which device should utilize HDMI 2.1 (eARC) Sonos Beam 2 or Playstation 5?

Hello all! I would like to get our opinions on which of the devices described in the title would you choose to use the HDMI 2.1 with the support of eARC if the other ports in your TV were only HDMI 2.0 ports with regular ARC, and why.

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jgatie
6 months ago
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anim8rixContributor II
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Ethernet wired Connection vs WIFI

I’m wondering how much of a difference it makes to connect some or all of my Sonos Speakers via ethernet instead of connecting over Wifi (for reference, I have an Eero mesh network that supports WIFI 6). It will take me some work to run cables to where my speakers are which is why I want to hear people’s opinions before making the effort. My reasons for asking are 1) I have a record player going to a latest gen Five and would like to stream to the rest of the apartment without echos. 2) Same issue with an arc when I’m watching/listening to TV through HDMI input (i.e. I want to hear the TV in my bedroom while doing chores). The apartment isn’t separated enough such that when there is a delay from one speaker to the next you will often here the echo. If you use ethernet, do you get any lower delay options in the app vs when connected via WIFI?  Another question (and I assume this isn’t possible but would be nice if Sonos would allow it)… is there a way to connect two speakers together wi

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PhaTeaContributor I
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verizon 5g wireless internet

I just switched to Verizon wireless 5g ultra (not fios) and now can not get my sonos one (gen 2) or play bar to connect to wifi.  Can anyone help?

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1 year ago
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HamzalakhanyContributor III
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how to calculate how many speakers needed for outdoor space?

I am planning to get sonos speakers for outdoor area. I have a pool area and garden at a total of 5-7000 sqft. I was planning to get 1 amp with 3 pairs of sonos architectural sonance outdoor speakers and a 6.1 sonance garden series with sonos amp.  how should I calculate if that is enough or not? Is there a thumb rule to calculate? 

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tangfjContributor I
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HDMI Mixer (swm16-max) + Sonos Amp + Apple TV for Karaoke?

Has anyone used something like this successfully to reduce audio delay? Right now I have a traditional mixer board and have tried several solutions but the RCA input delay/lag is quite annoying! Here is the HDMI mixer I found…https://www.soundtown.com/collections/microphone_systems/products/swm16-max I was thinking one of these setups below might work to reduce audio delay? Option 1Apple TV => Mixer => HDMI1 on TVThen use HDMI ARC output on TV => Sonos Amp Option 2Apple TV => HDMI1 on TV => Mixer via HDMI ARC Then Mixer => Sonos AMP via Optical&HDMI adapter For reference I currently have a Samsung Frame TV (if it matters)… What I don’t know is if option 1 will work since I'm not sure if the mixer is capable of arc passthrough? and then for option 2 I wasn’t sure if this would solve any of the delay issues I have or would it be the same problem with audio delays? I’ve done a bunch of searching on forums + reddit/etc but haven’t seen much new stuff on this topic… Th

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schneid-0Contributor I
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Sub not working and speakers connecting to WiFi not Sonosnet

Looking for some help.  I have a Playbar (ethernet to Google Nest router), Play5, 2 Play1s, Sub, and a Move.  The Playbar is the only speaker connected via ethernet.  All of the other speakers appear to be connecting to my home WiFi.  In About My System, it shows WM:0 for the Playbar and WM:1 for all the other speakers. Two questions…1) My Sub is not working (can’t feel it vibrate).  Note, in the Sonos app, in the System menu it displays Kitchen (+Sub) so it seems like it recognizes it.2) Is there a reason that all my devices (aside from the Move) are not connecting via Sonosnet instead of my Wifi?  My house is small so all the speakers are not too far apart. I’ve tried factory resetting all the speakers multiple times.  I’ve also tried connecting each device through an ethernet when resetting them.  However, once I unplug the ethernet, they connect through WiFi again.  And I don’t know how to make Sonos “forget” my WiFi.  Note, all the speakers work, except for the Sub (I just don’t u

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mattyp11Contributor I
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Orbi network connection issues

I’m not particularly tech savvy so apologies in advance for any confusion on my part.  I have a Netgear Orbi router with two different RBS50 satellites in my home, as well as several Sonos speakers throughout the house and a connect AMP that is wired to outdoor speakers on my back patio.  I recently set up an Orbi outdoor satellite to enhance my wifi signal outside.  At first, everything worked swimmingly and I had no issues connecting to my Sonos system while outside. However, I recently had to restart my modem + router, and ever since then the Sonos app cannot detect my system when I am outside.  I am still getting perfect wifi signal (which I assume is due to the outdoor satellite I added) but for whatever reason my Sonos system cannot be found.  Or, on occasion, it finds a couple of the indoor speakers but cannot find others, including the Connect AMP (which is particularly frustrating because that is what powers my outdoor speakers, as I noted above).  Any help in getting this iss

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Corry P
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Dd89Contributor I
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2 Sonos Accoubts on the same Wifi

My neighbor and I are sharing our wifi via mesh routers in order to save on monthly costs.I already have my Sonos device connected, my neighbor would like to set up his own account on the same wifi, is this possible? 

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ratty
7 months ago
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Ducks vs WombatsContributor I
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Sonos system using 400 megabytes of bandwidth

Seriously, 400 MB, according to speed tests. I am getting gigabyte scale fiber optic Internet from CenturyLink, but the huge draw of the Sonos system is causing dropout when the fiber bandwidth dips.System: 4 sonos 1s, 2 sonos 5s, 1 sonos move. Streaming mp3s from Airplay on my Mac Mini M1 desktop.The Internet suggested changing the Wi-Fi channel that the Sonos operates on, but in my android control app, it only lists one channel (11), and there's no option to change it.What is going on here?

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Ken_Griffiths
1 year ago
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DouglasFContributor I
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Best Alternatives for Harmony Remote??

Does anyone have a solid recommendation for a multi-device universal remote that works well with Sonos?I’ve used the Logitech Harmony Remote and Hub to control my AV products and Sonos for many years. It’s a great system. Recently, the remote stopped sending commands consistently to Sonos and Logitech has announced that they have discontinued Harmony, so updates and support will trail off. I’m done trying to get this to work correctly.

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Rmf1981Contributor I
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Pair additional speaker with Ray Soundbar

Hi All - I just added Sonos to my gym via a Ray sound bar on the TV.  My wife does guided workouts using the TV. Particularly on the treadmill, the TV speakers too far away to reliably hear over the treadmill motor. I'd like to use a Play 3 as an additional speaker, essentially just playing whatever the Ray is outputting.  I was able to add the Play 3 to the system with no problem, but it sets itself up into a new room ("Gym 2").   I'm figuring I can just put the output of the ray to the Play 3, but is there any way to permanently group these together?  (Improved WAF....you know....).   Thanks! 

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richlmContributor I
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Add new trusted wifi network while the existing one is still active

Sonos S2 IoS Version 14.14Arc + Sub + Play3 + Play3 + Move + RoamI have added a google wifi mesh to my home network, to improve wifi coverage. It is a different wifi network to the primary router network.I want to move my Sonos system to the new google wifi mesh, instead of the primary router wifi network, so I can use Sonos from IoS while I am connected to the google wifi mesh.On iphone, I connect to the new google wifi, open Sonos app, and follow instructions to set up a new network.All looks good, it recognizes my iphone is on a different wifi, asks if I want to continue setup, connects to the Arc...and then proceeds with a process of “re”connecting the Arc to the primary router’s network (again), not the one my iphone is connected to. We then go through all the other devices, connecting them to the primary router’s network, not the new google wifi (that my iphone is still connected to).Been through this process 5 times now, restarting app, google wifi, etc., also tried a temporary

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timkidneyContributor I
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Multiple devices on Multiple access points

Hello allIm aware this is a question that has been asked before but im yet to find a solution or answer that i understand.I have a client who has an old Cob house with super thick walls. We have wired in TP-Link access points to each room with a single SSID on Auto channel configuration. This is so all devices can roam inside and outside on the same network seamlessly. This works fine for all phones and laptops etc.With the new Wireless network in place we reconfigured the Sonos system setting up as like brand new. When in the Kitchen, id reset the Play1 Sonos then it would appear in my app and add as usually expected. When i then walk in to the Lounge. i see the App look like its lost connection as the username etc goes Grey, then after 15 seconds it appears white and showing connected apart from its no longer showing the Kitchen Sonos device. I continue by resetting the 2 x Lounge Sonos Play1 devices and add as a Stereo pair again in the usually expected manner. I can now see both co

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buzz
1 year ago
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